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    Gearbinding - can we get rid of it?

    Gearbinding doesnt seem to be helping the economy since gear drops like candy from a pinata anyway.. With new gear being introduce can we omit the gear binding concept? I much more prefer using gear as i want and then selling it on the marketboard later.

    Gearbinding itself just doesnt seem like a good concept unless kept to only specific certain pieces of gear.

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    sorry, let me clear this up, im not talking about U/U items.. Im talking about the process by which after using a sellable piece of gear once it becomes bound to you and you can never sell or trade it again.

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    Could the items not be made perishable so that after so much use it can no longer be resold or something? I would like that better.
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    Yeah, I loved all the arguments that allowing people to recycle gear hurts the economy and kills all crafting markets.


    LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    Gearbinding doesnt seem to be helping the economy since gear drops like candy from a pinata anyway.. With new gear being introduce can we omit the gear binding concept? I much more prefer using gear as i want and then selling it on the marketboard later.

    Gearbinding itself just doesnt seem like a good concept unless kept to only specific certain pieces of gear.
    I don't think it's going anywhere. If you can sell it, the RMT can sell it.
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    Its almost like SE wanted to throw it in and force it on us just to say that its there and that its doing something. I've never seen a worse economy in a game then we have in FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuinn View Post
    I don't think it's going anywhere. If you can sell it, the RMT can sell it.
    Pretty much this, it's SE's "RMT panic" (patent pending) model of game design. It's not actually doing anything to stop RMT, but as long as SE believes it is nothing is going to change and regular players be damned.
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    RMT is a different issue.. Btw.. You can sell gear before its gearbound so this argument is invalid.
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    In FFXI they learned the errors of having an economy where durables like gear are allowed to propagate endlessly from user to user. It killed any reason to craft or gather the gear at all because the market for these items was super saturated and there was no solution to fix it. You could say "well crafting isn't important here" or "but we all run dungeons a ton anyway" but that's just the way the game is today at this exact moment. To allow us to trade these items endlessly would have a long term negative effect on the game. As it stands it was a wonderful strategy to make crafted gear turn into materia. It keeps much of that market flowing. The only thing we need now is the ability to convert gear from dungeons as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    RMT is a different issue.. Btw.. You can sell gear before its gearbound so this argument is invalid.
    They're right though. It's one of many things Yoshi and crew axed because, "Oh no RMT!!!" Which is mind-boggling because I specifically remember him getting rid of anti-RMT measures in 1.xx.

    Just weird. It's like he forgot that most "RMT fixes" only punish the players. Just look at what he did to fishing for the best example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    Its almost like SE wanted to throw it in and force it on us just to say that its there and that its doing something. I've never seen a worse economy in a game then we have in FFXIV.
    That's not why the economy sux. Dropped gear is easy to get. In fact so easy that crafted+melded gear something 90% of the playerbase doesn't even have to think about. At all.

    Unbinding the U/U items will not revamp the economy. It'll just make crafting (and consequently gathering) even less appealing to players.
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    They should just let you do this.

    It's harder to make friends willing to give you the armor, than most fights in this game. It feels better to get things from a friend than it does for a game to just hand it to you.

    RMT already have the marketboards.
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