Is this acceptable for a story dungeon? (Thornmarch)

[Taruranto]

It was dead, old content on arrival.

[Miska]

This is pretty ridiculous having to wait on the duty finder for this long for something included in the story...

so you are saying that tanks should be automatically queued up for this? I haven't ran Thornmarch, and not planning on running it. So, how would you fix this problem so that tanks queue?

[randomrope]

This is pretty ridiculous having to wait on the duty finder for this long for something included in the story...

In "reality's" defense all of the tanks were either in school or at work. You were que'ing just before 2pm your time. Bad choice of time to use the DF yo.

[Mirakumi]

My alt just sat over 1 hour /half on titan storymode for main storyline quest and then people dropped when they entered. (Titan 4 man) FML. Had to do it FC members. So I understand your gripe. Perhaps they should include Hard Mode: Trials such as Garuda/titan/ifrit/thornmarch into the fray for bonuses - Duty Roulette: Trials. Bonus: "" I mean.

[Fendred]

Well, they kind of inherited the end game mess from other MMORPGs when they chose to copy paste end game gear grind when they really needed replayability. Honestly, the reason no one does Thornmarch is that end game dungeons are only done repeatedly because of the gear one can get from them. Going for a relic weapon is actually a bit easier than trying to grind out Thornmarch because so many people have experience in how to get through the necessary fights for the relic that it makes it easier. On top of which, you are ensured a weapon upon completion of the quest chain. Plus you can upgrade the relic, which you can't do with the Thornmarch weapon.

So people only do Thornmarch once, maybe twice for a friend and then they stop queueing for it. Maybe the vanity system will change that a bit, but I highly doubt it.

[Nekodar]

Well, they kind of inherited the end game mess from other MMORPGs when they chose to copy paste end game gear grind when they really needed replayability. Honestly, the reason no one does Thornmarch is that end game dungeons are only done repeatedly because of the gear one can get from them. Going for a relic weapon is actually a bit easier than trying to grind out Thornmarch because so many people have experience in how to get through the necessary fights for the relic that it makes it easier. On top of which, you are ensured a weapon upon completion of the quest chain. Plus you can upgrade the relic, which you can't do with the Thornmarch weapon.

So people only do Thornmarch once, maybe twice for a friend and then they stop queueing for it. Maybe the vanity system will change that a bit, but I highly doubt it.

I've done Thornmarch 30+ times just to get some weapons from it.
Weapons that I then use for the respective job through the Relic questline.
Thornmarch is easier to farm than Garuda HM or Titan HM for weapons to use until relic...

[AiChyan]

Utilize party finder. Fights like this one, hydra and chimera fill up really quickly on PF, mainly because people assume no one DFs this anymore.

[Simaril]

I did thornmarch using DF a bunch of times until i got the weapon. Most groups either suceed in 2 or 3 tries, a few are just terrible. I have had very high success rates there... bettter than Ifrit HM, and way better than Garuda HM. I still go there when I first log in as a quick warm up. I like that it's different than the primals.

[Akirakogami]

maybe they could add it to a roulette later?

No on really wants to do it since the rewards are just for lulz.

[Dinh]

In "reality's" defense all of the tanks were either in school or at work. You were que'ing just before 2pm your time. Bad choice of time to use the DF yo.

I would put Thornmarch into the story duty roulette, which it should be in considering this is part of the story missions. And last I checked, we are in a data center group, so you can't tell me that every tank ever was at school or work. I know 2 p.m. isn't the best time, but not finding 2 tanks in over 2 hours is ridiculous. Tanks either need to be incentivized, or SE needs to actually think ahead and forsee problems with their duty finder on content included in the story line (Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan story modes) with no real reason to do it outside of that, putting them into story mode roulette would alleviate many issues. Either way, this is an alternate character, and I really only want to do one fight, so I have no intentions in joining a PF when they are wanting to do multiple runs.