healer gear drop rates?

[DSN]

Careful now Mystic Meg...

The thing about code-based RNG, is that it isn't truely random. Don't be an idiot.

What do you base this on or is this something you are just regurgitating?
There are plenty of random numbers run by computers that you use all day every day that work just fine and cannot be predicted to the level of success that we have been able to walk in before the fight and call chest 1 has A and chest 2 has B and were 100% correct on regular enough basis to call BS to the randomness of loot distritbution.

Just because the RNG implementation here is trash doesn't mean every computer generated RNG is trash. Encryption is based on random data also known as the entropy and it works just fine with unpredictable result sets.

[Thorauku]

But RNG isn't random when we have called what is in each chest weeks in a row, it is not random when it is ALWAYS the same thing.

Just because you got the same piece in a row, doesn't mean others experienced it as well.

There's no point in arguing really, OP getting alot of tank gears while less healer, our party getting alot of Healer gears while less tanks. Makes sense?

[Shioban]

What do you base this on or is this something you are just regurgitating?
There are plenty of random numbers run by computers that you use all day every day that work just fine

My image already explains this this, but lets boil it down for you.

But in this case, its most certainly not 'truly' random other RNG systems differ of course but in FFXIVs loot pool case (most likely down to the very small array of possibilities) the results are much more predictable. With approximately 7 possibility and a simple % of chance per item on a basic RNG system of course it's going to go 7,7,7,7,7,7 it's a complete possibility.

If you'd ever even coded a basic RNG system you'd know this.

Using any other RNG system as a comparison to FFXIV's loot system regardless of their effectiveness doesn't deffer my point.

We're not working with a FPS shooter bullet accuracy/damage output here which could vary into the thousands.

It can be changed, but for now;

[Teirshin]

This has been said a million times, but needs to be said again. Random is random. You have a sample size of what 10-12 drops? It is by no means unlikely to have zero healer drops in that sample. Just as it is not unlikely to have 5 tank drops.

And this has no effect on your next 10 drops, they will still be random. If you bring us a sample with 1000 drops and no healer drops, now that would be unlikely. Unlikely, but still not impossible.

The problem is, without knowing just how good of an RNG script SE is using, we dont know just how close they are to simulating a true random drop. There are tons of ways to simulate a random number on a computer, some far better than others.

A shitty formula will tip the scales rather widely.

[Synapse]

Yes, yes people, SE is out to screw over all Healer, its a conspiracy. they just don't want you to get geared. Meanwhile In the other world of random drops, everyone gets everything equally.. thats doesn't mean everything drops equally to everyone, just that the percent probability you will get is... it can might as well be brd brd brd brd brd, 5 times in a row.. but of course the probably of that happening goes down after each drop of the same item.

Im sure we can start a CT thread about how they always get "X" and not "Y".

[Synapse]

There are plenty of random numbers run by computers that you use all day every day that work just fine

All the RNG are the same unless there have been tinkered with... then that would fall into the category of SE is conspiring against healer to make them suck by not giving them the drops.

Here i just did a random number generator, set max and min from 1-8(assume numbers are each jobs)...

The results:
2, 3, 7, 5, 2, 6, 6, 2, 3, 3, 7, 6, 5, 5, 5, 5, 4, 5, 7, 7, 1, 3, 3, 6, 2.

5, 5, 5, 5, 4, 5

I was actually lucky to get that on my first try.

[JayCommon]

RNG can suck, but this is in no way on FFXI level or say WKC where the drops were less than 1%.

Never played FFXI so I can't comment on that, but let's not compare RNG of WKC to FFXIV please. I played WKC for a long time, and yes it took me awhile to get a Fire Dragon Heart+. The difference here is, I could farm the dungeon in WKC umpteen times on end until I got it. For 6 months, players only had one chance per week at any drops in coil. Much easier to get frustrated in this type of situation. So technically it's not on the level of a 0.25% chance of me popping that heart+ in WKC, but if you weight the FFXIV RNG with the fact that it is a finite resource, it's easily comparable. It didn't take me 1 month to get a Fire Dragon Heart+.

Have been static coiling with my FC for about 2-3 months now, and I have seen 1 single BRD item drop. My BRD is already ilvl87, and I didn't need what dropped so I let an FC-mate grab it for its Alt. Gearing up my DRG alt because that's all we see as drops. My brother (mains a DRG) went from i72 to i84 in 2 weeks of coil and spending no myth. And since then I have even gotten 2 pieces of DRG gear as well.

The results:
2, 3, 7, 5, 2, 6, 6, 2, 3, 3, 7, 6, 5, 5, 5, 5, 4, 5, 7, 7, 1, 3, 3, 6, 2.

That sole 1 is the BRD loots for my static

[Synapse]

That sole 1 is the BRD loots for my static

Lmao, i just realized there is no 8.

8 Must be the Healer.

edit: did another one..

Results:

8, 1, 7, 3, 4, 2, 5, 2, 3, 6, 3, 8, 1, 5, 7, 8, 4, 7.

lol one 6.

The above could be 4 1/2 months worth of coil turn 4.. with just 1 drop for 6.

[TeaTimeBear]

Never played FFXI so I can't comment on that, but let's not compare RNG of WKC to FFXIV please. I played WKC for a long time, and yes it took me awhile to get a Fire Dragon Heart+. The difference here is, I could farm the dungeon in WKC umpteen times on end until I got it. For 6 months, players only had one chance per week at any drops in coil. Much easier to get frustrated in this type of situation. So technically it's not on the level of a 0.25% chance of me popping that heart+ in WKC, but if you weight the FFXIV RNG with the fact that it is a finite resource, it's easily comparable. It didn't take me 1 month to get a Fire Dragon Heart+.

Have been static coiling with my FC for about 2-3 months now, and I have seen 1 single BRD item drop. My BRD is already ilvl87, and I didn't need what dropped so I let an FC-mate grab it for its Alt. Gearing up my DRG alt because that's all we see as drops. My brother (mains a DRG) went from i72 to i84 in 2 weeks of coil and spending no myth. And since then I have even gotten 2 pieces of DRG gear as well.



That sole 1 is the BRD loots for my static

You could say that difference if it weren't for the fact that they will remove the lock from coil.. But even without locks people make topics such as CT threads. The WKC comparison is to show that it could be FAR worse (and my numbingly boring in my opinion)

For me I never seen a + and I played that game for hours on in until I just couldn't run anymore farm hunts due to both mass boredom/bad RNG/ Psn getting hacked/Games network getting canned. Also finding people who were willing to farm proved rather difficult for me because most wanted to face roll big red for the 300th time.

I get the OP but as stated above it could be so so so much worse and her friends situation is looking up especially with next month right around the corner.

[JayCommon]

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Heh, can you imagine the frustration of my WKC static when I messaged them all this picture? I effectively farmed the entire dragon!