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  1. #341
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
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    That 1.8m number is just fishy. When they released the 600k active subs number the front page still said "1.8m players" I know just from being on different servers and watching entire fcs/ls go. You can feel the difference between when it first released (when I'd say it was easily over 600k people playing) and now.

    I just don't see how they went from selling 1.8m copies to coincidentally having 1.8m subs
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  2. #342
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    LemmingKingXXX's Avatar
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    Jho Stumps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    Which one are you?

    Poster 1: "I'm right! You're wrong cause I said so!"
    Poster 2: "You're not right, I'm right!"
    Poster 3: "None of you are right. I have no opinion"
    Poster 4: "I'm an IT Professional! hurrdurr!"
    Poster 5: "I'm the voice of raisins! I mean reason!"
    Poster 6: "Oh look! A unicorn!"
    Poster 7: "If people would stop being so damn militant and confrontational maybe they'd actually convince people who don't already share their point of view the benefits of their opinion."
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  3. #343
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    Marishi-Ten's Avatar
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    Marishi Ten
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Not to mention SE is "back into blacks" thanks to XIV and i am not sure, if that would have been possible with just "total sales" and 600k subs. But yeah.. lets just wait for official numbers.
    You gotta read in between the lines on those financial reports. It's unbelievable the amount of flexibility the government gives companies when it comes to reporting their quarterly financial results. They have to disclose if the reports are GAAP or Non GAAP:

    Non GAAP - Gross reports (before taxes, interest, blah, blah, blah)
    GAAP - Net reports (the actual walk away profit/loss when everything is said and done)

    Black in Non GAAP doesn't mean you're making any money. You're likely still bleeding revenue especially if your margin is razor thin.
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  4. #344
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    Silvauna Skylar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    They have noted other milestones in other Interviews.
    It's all in the wording. "1.8 Million Players! Buy Now!" on the game's main page is very vague, as are all the cited sources of the game's popularity. Not to mention, it's been there for how long with no change?

    Sources merely claim X number of players, accounts or sales. Nobody has disclosed directly, and indisputably, the number of concurrent subs. Technically, they are not lying, but we all know they are wording things for positive publicity and nothing more. We all know that it's sustained subscribers that determine an MMO's degree of success, and SE is grasping at straws for any positive publicity they can manage for this game. We'll see in 3 more months if it's still "1.8 Million Players! Buy Now!" I guess. lol
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  5. #345
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derceto View Post
    It's all in the wording. "1.8 Million Players! Buy Now!" on the game's main page is very vague, as are all the cited sources of the game's popularity. Not to mention, it's been there for how long with no change?

    Sources merely claim X number of players, accounts or sales. Nobody has disclosed directly, and indisputably, the number of concurrent subs. Technically, they are not lying, but we all know they are wording things for positive publicity and nothing more. We all know that it's sustained subscribers that determine an MMO's degree of success, and SE is grasping at straws for any positive publicity they can manage for this game. We'll see in 3 more months if it's still "1.8 Million Players! Buy Now!" I guess. lol

    True all I go by is people I see in the game and to me it still feels busy.
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  6. #346
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    Methos Ranperre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    I know Neko, as it only makes sense. However, ppl still doubted this in my previous posts because it didn't specifically mention "instance servers" and "NA/EU no longer being pooled with JPN Datacenter". Why I posted the Sept 3rd topic as it specifically mentions both. All they want to do is argue instead of looking at Lodestone Topics themselves.
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  7. #347
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    Kluya Heiral
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcdistro View Post
    Please SE get what ever you keep breaking fixed, this has been going on 2-3 times a week since beta and still has not been fixed... I love this game but even my friends are getting fed up and starting to leave... 20-30 people just stop playing every week and those are numbers just from our free company. With numbers like this this game will be dead in about a year. Its just inviting bad publicity and reviews..

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/category/2

    go ahead scroll through the pages add them all up since the start... all 177 posts.. say only 90 of them are/were actual maintenances... that is about 3 maintenance a week..

    yes the 20-30 people who quit the game are not just due to maintenance, its lack of economy, lack of content, dungeon lock outs and they are already skinning dunegeons before creating new zones and creating new dungeons... here slap a .
    Your FC sounds like a daycare for 3 year olds
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  8. #348
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    Mjollnir's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    The actual groups were changed in 2.1.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a
    Missed that, thanks!
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  9. #349
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    Lafiel Brunestud
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  10. #350
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    Iec Erynt
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    So, what did this maintenance actually fix? I can't find notes.

    I've noticed that selling things on MB defaults to Confirm again and the PS3 doesn't have the annoying mouse cursor. What else?
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    Last edited by Iecerint; 02-27-2014 at 09:31 AM. Reason: typos

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