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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    And random WW wipes the melee out...

    Yes, Sup still uses WW even after Chi is dead.
    I have never seen this happen whether when I tank or DPS. Are you sure that DPS didn't get hit by Garuda's WW which is what remains until Suparna is dead? Video proof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    I have never seen this happen whether when I tank or DPS. Are you sure that DPS didn't get hit by Garuda's WW which is what remains until Suparna is dead?
    Nah, I've seen Suparna WW after Chirada was dead on several occasions. Maybe if Slipstream was used right before Chirada gets killed, it's too late, or something like that. I'm not exactly sure of the cause, but I've seen the behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    I have never seen this happen whether when I tank or DPS. Are you sure that DPS didn't get hit by Garuda's WW which is what remains until Suparna is dead? Video proof?
    Considering I was the tank who pulled Sup away from Garuda and still got WWed...yeah, I'd say it wasn't Garuda...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Considering I was the tank who pulled Sup away from Garuda and still got WWed...yeah, I'd say it wasn't Garuda...
    Suparna does not wicked wheel after Chirada is dead. Only Garuda. If you are the OT running from S to N to get Suparna off MT, there is literally no way you can convince me Suparna did a wicked wheel. You would simply be wrong. There is a slight possibility at the instant Chirada goes down the timer for x2 wicked wheel is up and would still hit the MT, but melee/OT will not be in danger of that.

    Garuda's wicked wheel while Suparna is still alive will do 4k+ to melee DD, and can very easily lead to their death.

    *EDIT* To be useful to the OP, what I found best as a Melee DD on Garuda EX is to pay attention to the timing on your kill of Chirada. I usually run a single heal run, so the timing will look something like this:
    Before rocks go down, everyone kills Chirada (usually before or at downburst hitting OT), I sit for 5-8 seconds and see Garuda's wicked wheel go off, then DPS Suparna (sometimes OT will pull away fast and you can hit her as long as you stay out of range of Garuda's wicked wheel), Suparna will not wicked wheel. If you see Friction cast go off as you kill Suparna, be weary that Garuda can still do a wicked wheel in a 1-2 second window (happens after her downburst).

    After rocks go down (second sisters and beyond), pew pew Chirada with group, she goes down at same timing (before or at downburst hitting tank), and Garuda will again wicked wheel in 5-8 seconds. Usually as second spiny stack hits OT if you want a marker. Its usually better to play it safe and not chance Garuda's wicked wheel, as tank will be moving around slipstreams and such to get the spiny. So after you see that wicked wheel from Garuda once you've killed Chirada, go ahead and jump/shoulder tackle in. Then its just a matter of looking for Friction. Once you see Friction cast ending, its time to run out of wicked wheel range. Most tanks don't bother to help melee here with positioning. You can help yourself by seeing Friction cast, then watching the tornado pulse around you. Soon as you see/hear the tornado's pulse, just walk casually over to the ranged if there is no room in Garuda/Suparna's area, see the Wicked Wheel go off, and walk back to finish the job.

    TL, DR; Its timed, you just have to know the timing difference of Chirada being alive or not.
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    Last edited by Traek; 02-28-2014 at 01:38 AM.