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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misha View Post
    I'm glad we have more idea's on how to restrict and alienate our limited population even more with thier toon xD caps like that make no sense... if your avatar/toon is higher experienced or lv u should be able to go back when strong and should be easier... natural mmo progression
    Well, no. It doesn't really work in the same way other MMOs do because you can switch class. If people want gear from a dungeon, they can switch to a high level, kill the bosses and switch back.

    That kills the point and party-play element because everyone will end up soloing it for what they need.

    You do realise it took 5 years to make what we had at release and then you expect them to re-write the entire game in 6 months?
    Are you implying people should stick around for another 3 years before this game becomes playable? Yes it took them 5 years to make but SE was a total mess and lacked direction/communication in every department, hopefully a lot of that inefficiency has been or is being resolved.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    So sitting back and saying nothing while they take their time and add pointless or half baked changes IS ok?
    Are you sure it would be halfbaked, if they would take their Time?

    If people havent been complaining about all the basic features missing or about the dull unbalanced world, or crappy main features, then they would think everything is fine and dandy and keep going with the crap.
    There are other ways to point something out, than complaining. If you want changes its more productive to point something out, back up your oppinion, maybe do a Poll etc etc. Beeing like "No i dont like this, this sucks" does not help. Constructive Feedback is Golden.

    its sad to see that even fans say things like "i dont expect much" and severely lower their standards because this game has been so bad.
    I dont think this Game is bad in the first place. But i also dont think this is the best Game SE ever made. I dont expect much too, and that way i wont be dissapointed when SE is releasing something. I also dont lower my standards, i just think "Good things take a while". And at the Moment i think SE is going a good direction now. I seriously dont care about copy/paste Landscapes.. im not a prick and you find that in every MMO.. in some more, in some less. Its nothing which would have influence on my Gaming-Fun.

    You should never WANT to take second or third best. SE either needs to step it up or give it up, and as someone who is not only a longtime SE everything fan, but a 6 year FFXI vet, im not letting them get away with low standards, because ive already seen them do SOOOO much better, and one of those times was over 8 years ago.
    The first and only mistake was the early launch of FFXIV.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Ok I dont understand complainers, you cry that theres nothing to do, so SE announce somthing then you complain that it looks rushed and you dont like the reskins. Give the damn devs a break here. if you can do better in the few months it took to make these zones, gear etc then make your own damn game.

    You do realise it took 5 years to make what we had at release and then you expect them to re-write the entire game in 6 months?
    You're absolutely right, some of this bitching is utterly ridiculous. Like, seriously, complaints about the time limits?

    But hey, as for the 6-month thing, consider me spoiled by Runic.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    I can't help but think its a huge mistake not level capping the lower one. Level capping would facilitate a challenge regardless of how many 50 jobs you had. Dunno, just thing its a bad call.
    Can we get a dev to clarify on this for us? I really hope they re-introduce the idea of level-caps and syncs to this game. Think it will be really useful for when they release it on PS3.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Ok I dont understand complainers, you cry that theres nothing to do, so SE announce somthing then you complain that it looks rushed and you dont like the reskins. Give the damn devs a break here. if you can do better in the few months it took to make these zones, gear etc then make your own damn game.

    You do realise it took 5 years to make what we had at release and then you expect them to re-write the entire game in 6 months?
    apparently you havent played many other MMOs, but aside from what Sephr said, there are fractional sized/budgeted companys that can get out tons more content/fixes in a MUCH smaller amount of time.
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  6. #66
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    Can we stop the b****ing back and forth that is taking place in this thread? No one gives a crap - shut your pie hole and discuss things constructively. We are not interested in either of your love spats. STOP.

    I am reserving judgement on these dungeons. I did get annoyed in FFXI when they used copy/past on the mob models up through levels. I am not surprised to see it here - certainly hope the bosses are completely different looking but I am not holding my breath. All that matters at this point is, and what should be focused on, being ready to conquer these dungeons. =) I think that copy/past issue will become moot when you could possibly get your arse handed back to you several times.
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  7. #67
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    You guys complain way to damn much. You people would complain if the new dungeons came with free blow jobs.

    I'm certainly excited!
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  8. #68
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    I'm going to throw a crazy idea out here, so bear with me because this might be a little far-fetched.

    How about we wait for the dungeons to be released (gasp! I know that's frightening, but hold on a second), actually play through the dungeons, then gather people's opinions through polls, questionnaires, etc., sort of like in this thread here:

    One to Fifty, One Zone - Long OP

    Obviously the introduction of these dungeon is of great importance to the future of this game. So I'd like to believe people here can take just one minute to be civil, put down their pitchforks and picket signs (for and against this game), and cooperate.

    We did it once, can we do it again?
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Ok I dont understand complainers, you cry that theres nothing to do, so SE announce somthing then you complain that it looks rushed and you dont like the reskins. Give the damn devs a break here. if you can do better in the few months it took to make these zones, gear etc then make your own damn game.

    You do realise it took 5 years to make what we had at release and then you expect them to re-write the entire game in 6 months?
    Make the zones? They were already in the game, they didn't make anything.
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    Beat Daisukenojo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Ok I dont understand complainers, you cry that theres nothing to do, so SE announce somthing then you complain that it looks rushed and you dont like the reskins. Give the damn devs a break here. if you can do better in the few months it took to make these zones, gear etc then make your own damn game.
    With blackjack! And hookers!
    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    You do realise it took 5 years to make what we had at release and then you expect them to re-write the entire game in 6 months?
    Not re-write - more like "finish writing". Yes some parts need to get overhauled but I think it's fairly clear at this point that they're working on the changes alongside finishing the development they originally had slotted for this time.

    You know, it almost feels like this is some cosmic joke, that Tanaka accidentally wrote "Q4 2010" instead of "Q4 2011" on a project calendar and then didn't realize his mistake until it was too late and just decided "Screw it."
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