Dragoons - I don't see too many of them in the high end content

[PArcher]

Am I just making stuff up?

You are.

You're also like all the other "all melee are bad always" people...I'm sure if you actually tried to be a melee you'd fail like the majority. But you won't, its just *so* much easier to sit back and blame the melee regardless of whether its their fault or not

[Versiroth]

You are.

You're also like all the other "all melee are bad always" people...I'm sure if you actually tried to be a melee you'd fail like the majority. But you won't, its just *so* much easier to sit back and blame the melee regardless of whether its their fault or not

So, you admit the majority fail? That's harsh. I wouldn't have said majority. I just would have said "a lot" or "quit a few".

Also, is this how you always argue a point? Just make assumptions about people based off nothing at all? Where and when did I say "all melee are bad always"?

[BlackThought]

Or, more likely, you are one of the bad one. Which is why your feelings seem to be so hurt by my generalizing.

This is textbook concern trolling right here. If you make sweeping inaccurate generalizations about a swath of people they're well within their rights to take issue with it. It's the proper response, in fact.

[Versiroth]

This is textbook concern trolling right here. If you make sweeping inaccurate generalizations about a swath of people they're well within their rights to take issue with it. It's the proper response, in fact.

My generalization isn't inaccurate. Way too many people playing melee DPS poorly is the reason you get "Range only" groups in the first place. All I said is that my experience trying to heal most melee DPS has been a poor one (most doesn't mean all). So, personally, I can see why people form those "range only" groups. If the proper response to my saying that is to start making stuff up, like you and parcher have (calling me a troll and saying that I said "all melee are bad always"), go for it I guess.

[BlackThought]

Generalizations are always inaccurate. It's kind of how they work.

[Wingszerodrive]

There's a reason I don't like to DRG certain content with unknown tanks, especially PLD. The above mentality is so strong with many tanks its just frustrating to try to get them to actually realize that they have a responsibility to keep melee safe...but no, its too much "work"...

i agree with this sometime tank position mobs on akward ways.... once on a T1 a tank positioned the snake on a corner so i only had flank aviliable going behind was too narrow then a green pool spawned on that only flank location so what did i do... just went back and /..dance till the tank realized what he was doing

[Hitome]

You are.

You're also like all the other "all melee are bad always" people...I'm sure if you actually tried to be a melee you'd fail like the majority. But you won't, its just *so* much easier to sit back and blame the melee regardless of whether its their fault or not

Playing a melee class is not hard. It's actually a pretty big snooze. I'm sorry that you seem to think it seems difficult (to you).

When I'm healing, I do have to give the melee more attention. But they also have tools that they can use that counteracts this. For instance, if I'm on my MNK and get hit by something, I can just use second wind instantly and make up for that mistake. On my BLM, I can spam physick on myself only to have a healer cure 1/physick me a second later back to full health (meaning my physick didn't help at all). Same with bloodbath, mantra, etc.

Garuda is the only fight where I have to give more attention to the melee due to whicked. Even then, it's not like I'm hard pressed for aetherflow stacks/MP and have no problem lustrating a melee that gets whicked wheeled. In fact, most of the time I'll just stoneskin + adlo one right before whicked goes off.

But there are plenty of lazy healers out there who do not want to be bothered to do this type of thing hence why you have bias towards range on Garuda.

[Warrlordd]

BTW melee on Titan is the 'EASY' way to do it.

I'm surprised there aren't any 'melee only' Titans. Or maybe that's because of an unfair stigma towards melee being less valuable/more dangerous.

Melee (DRG in particular have high value in T5, T4, and T1 especially) there ought not to be a stigma that they are bad but that feeling goes beyond FFXIV, really.