Warrior Quality of Life Adustments.

[SirTaint]

Off the GCD would be nice and make it easier to time with big attacks.

To balance it they should give PLD a finisher to riot blade that boost damage or hits hard enough to be used as a OT combo.

[Kitru]

To balance it

If it's a QoL improvement, there's no need or even point to having some kind of balancing buff to another class. The QoL improvements that PLD needs (legitimate OT rotation, Hallowed Ground delay fix) are completely separate from what WAR needs (*possibly* improving IB by taking it off-GCD or increasing duration by 2 seconds or so).

[Ehayte]

Reduce damage by half (keeps pot/GCD the same as it is now) and increase self-healing to 200%.

Except that it is a much bigger dmg debuff than pot/GCD can describe, as you can only use it once every 23 seconds or whatever. So its not 1/2 the dmg 2x as fast, its 1/2 the dmg about 1.12x as fast (I grabbed the 1.12 out of nowhere, but you see what I mean?)

I don't think having the dmg portion off the GCD is going to be game breaking at all. If anything I think WAR deserves a little bit of a dps boost.

[Kitru]

Except that it is a much bigger dmg debuff than pot/GCD can describe, as you can only use it once every 23 seconds or whatever.

Except that it's not. I'm not referring to potency/GCD of IB itself. I'm referring to pot/GCD for the entire attack string as a whole.

Recall that IB, as it stands, has a pot/GCD of 400 (300 / .75). Since WAR has an average potency/GCD (looking only at special attacks) of ~210, Taking it off of the GCD means that you're getting the damage it currently deals on top of the potency for the attack you'd be using otherwise, providing a GCD of 610, compared to the 400 or 210 you'd be getting otherwise.

Reducing the damage to 150 means that it will have a potency of 200 (150 / .75). When you add that 200 potency to the ~210 you get with the on-GCD attacks, you end up with a GCD that provides 410 potency, which is nearly what you get with the IB GCD right now.

The reduction in damage needed when taking IB off of the GCD has nothing to do with the modification in use rate (it only speeds up use rate by 1 GCD, which is ~14%). It has everything to do with preventing the modification of the potency that the GCD in which IB is used (since, as an off-GCD ability, it's used on top of one of your normal attacks).

[Ehayte]

Right, so adding 210 potency onto 1 out of every 8 GCDs is a potency/GCD increase of like 12.5% (I know its a little more complicated than that, but adding those complications dilutes it further), assuming you never use unchained, or steel cyclone ever. So that's, what, an 8% increase in dps in a full-IB rotation? All I was saying is I think that would be fine.

And it actually only speeds up an IB production by .5 GCDs, right? Since the iGCD is like 1.33s?

[Nalou]

1. Take Inner Beast off the GCD.
2. Allow Inner Beast to be used while Pacified.

It seems a little bit overpowered, but I like your ideas so:
1 - Take Inner Beast off the GCD, but make it use your next GCD. This way, we can use it anytime without getting a damage boost.
2 - Allow Inner Beast to be use while Pacified, but reduce damage dealt to 0... which would be logic since we're pacified.

[NightReach]

IB off GCD would be completely broken, especially in PVP, u can do 880 potency in 1 gcd or 1080 potency with Mercy stroke, you can literally 100-0 someone in 2.5 sec.

A change like this would only be warranted if the damage is reduce to 150-200 potency attack.

[Dedayius]

Very much yes to off GCD inner beast.

[Shinkyo]

It seems a little bit overpowered, but I like your ideas so:
1 - Take Inner Beast off the GCD, but make it use your next GCD. This way, we can use it anytime without getting a damage boost.

I like the idea of IB resetting your GCD. if would completely screw the way we're calculating War's potency per GCD but it's a fair trade off.

@Kitru: I'm a bit confused about your position. I thought that you'd proven many times and in details that PLD has theoretical higher enmity and DPS than WAR per GCD, with off-GCD skills (CoC and SW) being the main driver (at least with both PLD and WAR in the party). How is it that off GCD IB would be OP damage wise? I do agree that it'll be strong but I'd see it as WAR being where it should be on DPS compared to PLD.
Also IB isn't affected by the 25% damage reduce from Defiance if I recall correctly so the potency is still 300, not 400 (300 / .75) no?.

[Braxton]

It would be OP in the fact that currently I can hit 1.3k crit IB's, doing that in a non GCD would be insane.

and @ the idea that WAR needs to be able to more dmg: you're clearly not doing it wrong. While tanking I'm still doing damage equivalent to a lesser DPS. Spec 30STR and rock STR accessories