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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macka View Post
    No they made a deal with with Sony the same will apply to ESO.
    that good ^^ I wouldn't like to pay xiv & ps plus ^^;
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZReport View Post
    It won't take several years if PS4 comes out with games worth justifying the purchase of one soon. The number of total sales of PS4s just passed the 5 million mark, in comparison to the total 80 million ish PS3s sold. It has already jumped to the best seller list in Japan. It also opened up sales exceptionally well in the US. It was a good plan for SE to set their original plan for PS4 & PC, and use the PS3 as an early platform for people to join in on the fun. They basically played on the upcoming success that is PS4.
    Most people aren't willing to spend over $300 on a video game console. It's not that they can't afford it, it's just they don't want to spend it.

    The first PS4 price drop will likely be at the end of the year. Probably down to $350
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    I doubt it since you don't even need it to play on the ps3. Sony unlike Microsoft doesn't want to milk you for every cent and make you have to have their premium service to access online games or parts of games.

    Quote Originally Posted by cherevil View Post
    that good ^^ I wouldn't like to pay xiv & ps plus ^^;
    Sony have stated that in order to play online games on PS4 you will have to subscribe to PS+ Maybe not for FFXIV or other monthly sub MMO's but everything else you will have to pay for.

    Lets face it, if you buy a PS4 you're not going to use just for FFXIV are you? So you'll end up subbing for PS+ anyway to play your other games online.

    Pretty sure based on this, Sony will be pushing support to end on PS3, and everyone migrate to PS4 so they can cash in. The claim Sony don't want to milk you for your cash like Microsoft is quite laughable, Playstation Home anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillyBamp View Post
    Lets face it, if you buy a PS4 you're not going to use just for FFXIV are you? So you'll end up subbing for PS+ anyway to play your other games online.
    Sadly, if I buy a PS4, it MAY be solely to play FFXIV. It just eats up too much of my very limited free time for me to play a lot of other games.

    Someday, I may finish "The Last of Us".

    Someday...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    the ffxi comment is kinda moot since they did stop ps2 support with their last expansion.
    Why are people still saying this? It's not hard to understand, at all, how can so many still say this... ok, pay attention for the 500th time people, FFXI HAS NOT DROPPED PS2 SUPPORT, they simply did not release the expansion outside of Japan and Asia for the PS2. THE PS2 IS STILL SUPPORTED ON FFXI!!!

    FFXI needed to drop PS2 support years ago, but it has never done so because (supposedly) the PS2 is used to play the game throughout Asia, even in Japan itself... Since the costs would drastically exceed the profit of releasing the last expansion on the PS2 outside of Asia/Japan, they decided to not release it in these territories. However, since it is STILL on the PS2 in other countries, that means that support is NOT dropped.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Sadly, if I buy a PS4, it MAY be solely to play FFXIV. It just eats up too much of my very limited free time for me to play a lot of other games.

    Someday, I may finish "The Last of Us".

    Someday...
    it be the same for me ^^ when I 1st got a ps3 it was just to play 1 game on it ^^;
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Most people aren't willing to spend over $300 on a video game console. It's not that they can't afford it, it's just they don't want to spend it.

    The first PS4 price drop will likely be at the end of the year. Probably down to $350
    And do you know the reason why a price drop will happen in the first place? It's because they made a return on investment of making the machines due to them selling well. That allows them to research and develop ways to make cheaper parts and re-release a cheaper PS4. That's the basics of how it works in the console industry for systems (or games) that sell well.

    People are willing to spend $300 if not more for a system. In fact, the PS4 selling well in both the US and Japan in the opening week should be a testament to that.

    Think deeper on why things are going the way it is for FFXIV right now. The top execs at SE made a very smart business play for the game. They played to the Western gaming sentiments as well as the Japanese gaming sentiments. They knew that MMO PC gaming was premier for US players as well as European players, so they didn't market the PS3 version as hard. They re-released FFXIV with the promise that it would be on the PS3, not to market to PS3 players, but to market to console gamers themselves. It's like a fail safe with in release, they targeted console players, building off of the success of FFXI, which was a hit on console too. They knew PS4 was going to be a hit in the US (and around the world), which is why they made sure FFXIV was accessible day 1 to JP PS4, so that their own home of already majority console players can have something to enjoy on their new shiny PS4 they just purchased today (or yesterday, or tomorrow).

    They probably knew the longevity of the PS3 system for the game was limited, but instead went about it so they could appear benevolent in trying to have as many players enjoy the content as possible. This allows them to safely drop support on an aged console in the future and further support their new growing game without any set backs.
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    Last edited by ZReport; 02-22-2014 at 05:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    I doubt it since you don't even need it to play on the ps3. Sony unlike Microsoft doesn't want to milk you for every cent and make you have to have their premium service to access online games or parts of games.
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    ...and from the Gridania forest mysts proceed the souls of warriors and heroes; among which I am honored to serve as part of the One.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Most people aren't willing to spend over $300 on a video game console with very few quality games to play at the moment. It's not that they can't afford it, it's just they don't want to spend it.

    The first PS4 price drop will likely be at the end of the year. Probably down to $350
    ^^fixed it for you


    I'm not purchasing a PS4 at the moment because I have enough of a backlog of great PS3 games to play through.

    As soon as PS4 has a line-up of games that appeal to me (as opposed to a few individual titles), I'll pull the trigger and purchase one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    Sorry if this sounds cold, but do you really expect a company which has a business model set to milk 10$ a month really focus on those with such limited resources. I would not expect any company to spend big dollars for design and test on any console after a year of its successor being on the market.

    Also if $400, spread out over a year is to much, you really should look into getting a better job or some budgeting websites.

    It is not appropriate to limit the entire player base to what a PS3 can support for a small number of people who cannot upgrade. I say pull the plug sooner then later.
    Theres also the simple observation that the expansion seems to be a good time away estimated time being 2015ish possibly even 2016(doubt it but who knows?). Its not like they are gonna go 'whoops! expansions out! Time to drop PS3!' There will still be some time after that giving people a fair warning (probably even an event/patch along with it with more content i presume), and like he said in said interview by then most will have moved on seeing as though by then all the next gen consoles will have more appealing choices for games and those who had the PS3 version can still swap to PS4 for free.

    So yes unfortunate it wont last forever but now you can use this time to start planning for the inevitable....which once again is a decent amount of time away since we dont even know how long after the expansion they plan on dropping it. It could be another year or so added on to that if sales go good with PS3 versions.

    TLDR - You are freaking out over something that has not even been confirmed to happen for another 2-3+ years. PS3 are gonna be out of date by then anyway. Chill lol.
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    Last edited by SirDiscoFrog; 02-22-2014 at 06:01 AM.

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