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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    The difference is FFXIV zones are super small you can ride the choco from one side of the zone to the other in 2 minutes or less and FFXIV zones were huge. There is no immersion to this game.
    Lol, so the difference is something completely unrelated. FFXI had bigger zones, but a lot of them were pretty much barren with little to no reason to ever visit them. "Content" in FFXIV's zones being more condensed due to the smaller zones actually makes them feel a lot more alive than the multiple zones in FFXI that ended up abandoned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    The difference is FFXIV zones are super small you can ride the choco from one side of the zone to the other in 2 minutes or less and FFXIV zones were huge. There is no immersion to this game.
    So...having to take 10 minutes to go across an empty zone is better than taking 2 minutes to go across a Zone that's fleshed-out and almost always has 3 or more Fates in your way (which you can stop and run if you want)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    The difference is FFXIV zones are super small you can ride the choco from one side of the zone to the other in 2 minutes or less and FFXIV zones were huge. There is no immersion to this game.
    Parroting others have said. The only difference between the two exact same actions is the distance traveled? Because quite frankly and excuse me for sounding rude but that is up there with the dumbest arguments I have ever heard. You cannot argue that two things that myself and others have pointed out to be exactly the same, are different because the travel distance is not the same.

    I mean, I even used FATEs to counter NMs which I have been lead to believe drop awesome and rare gear. That would have been an acceptable response and it was easy and I basically walked into a point I would have just lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    So...having to take 10 minutes to go across an empty zone is better than taking 2 minutes to go across a Zone that's fleshed-out and almost always has 3 or more Fates in your way (which you can stop and run if you want)...
    The zones were not empty, almost every zone had something to farm, something to do. Most of the FFXIV zones are worthless because there really isn't much to do besides fates and gathering. Very few items are worth farming and as far as gathering goes all you do is make a circle farming the same 3 nodes. This is a very shallow game compared to FFXI. Its hard to believe that it was made by the same developers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Where exactly does Yoshi-P mention dropping PS3 support in that interview?
    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...p_features_of/

    As far as zone size and things to do in zones... Yoshi needs to take a page out of Rift's book, IMO, when it comes to planting things to do all over. Rifts (of various types: minor, major, raid, crafting, pvp, hunt) and zone invasions, artifacts, quantum/omen sight for special artifacts and entrances to slivers, puzzles, instant adventures, rare spawns, as well as your standard gathering node stuff and exploring, climbing mountains to get amazing views (can't do that in XIV, which makes me so sad :<)... And hardly any of that requires hanging around in one spot camping for a spawn (i.e. NMs in XI). And that's just the open world stuff. Wish I could have Rift's breadth of content with XIV's artistic vision and story. And the subscription. :<
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    How many of you actually walk/use your mounts to travel from place to place?
    I don't anymore, because there's no need to. There's no hidden or hard to reach place that would draw my attention and make me say "Wow, what's that? I wonder what's up here." and go there to explore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimate3 View Post
    Parroting others have said. The only difference between the two exact same actions is the distance traveled? Because quite frankly and excuse me for sounding rude but that is up there with the dumbest arguments I have ever heard. You cannot argue that two things that myself and others have pointed out to be exactly the same, are different because the travel distance is not the same.

    I mean, I even used FATEs to counter NMs which I have been lead to believe drop awesome and rare gear. That would have been an acceptable response and it was easy and I basically walked into a point I would have just lost.
    Do your self a favor spend the $19.99 on FFXI play it for a month and then come back and try to argue your point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    The zones were not empty, almost every zone had something to farm, something to do. Most of the FFXIV zones are worthless because there really isn't much to do besides fates and gathering. Very few items are worth farming and as far as gathering goes all you do is make a circle farming the same 3 nodes. This is a very shallow game compared to FFXI. Its hard to believe that it was made by the same developers.
    Nothing to farm? Maybe nothing for you, but I make gil off selling horns when I have extra from crafting. Same for some other mats from mobs, and not just eggs...

    Maybe you need to go through the market again and see what sells and what doesn't again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    Do your self a favor spend the $19.99 on FFXI play it for a month and then come back and try to argue your point.
    So your argument to my point was for me to play a game I have little interest in?

    I'm not arguing that what you said was wrong. I'm saying your point that FFXIV's actions, that mirror FFXI actions, are invalid because of travel distance.

    Because that's dumb. Convince me that's not dumb. I want to believe that I am understanding your argument wrong. Because otherwise, it's just dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimate3 View Post
    I want to believe that I am understanding your argument wrong.
    My point is there really isn't much to do in any FFXIV zone. Travel 2 feet and your at the Fate travel 2 more feel and your at your gathering nodes. How many leveling parties besides fates have you seen in FFXIV? I can answer that Zero because there is no reason to. How many people do you see fighting over mobs because they are farming materials? I can answer that one to! Zero because out side of a few items most drops in FFXIV are worthless. How many people do you see helping other people with quests? Matter of fact how many people have you seen shout for help with a quest in a zone besides the cities? I can answer that one to zero! How many times have you helped a low level through a zone because it was too dangerous for them to get through? I can answer that one too Zero because a level 1 could walk right through the 50 zones with out worry. I can go on and on if you want me to.
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