AOE Toggle Needs to GO

[Shai]

Still waiting on Tibian's next attempt to tell me how it will make the game better.

They may be abstract, though, and I might not consider them legitimate.

Nice escape plan. ^^

[Meph]

I dont like this AOE toggle.
I think separte single target spells and "-ga" spells would make it feel more like a FF.
But i do see the problem with having too much spells to put in your action bars. Hope SE Can find a better solution for the AOE toggle.

[Rowyne]

There's a subtargeting prompt, but there's no AOE prompt.

I click Cure. It hovers over a target. I choose the target and push enter.
There's no extra hidden "DO YOU WANT AOE?" prompt. You guys are making it up.

Pushing enter goes hand in hand with the AoE prompt issue. The toggle is included in the final confirmation of casting the spell.

There are way too many steps in this game to throwing a cure on someone.

How it works:

1. Select a target
2. Hit enter to bring up your action bar
3. Flip action bar to find your cure spell
4. Select Cure
5. AoE toggle button appears in middle of screen. Toggle and/or hit enter to confirm (1-2 steps depending)

That's up to 6 steps.

How it should work:

1. Select target
2. Select Cure. There should be no flipping of action bars because they should show all at once. And cure should go off immediately with no extra confirmation.

That would be two steps.

I'd much rather go through 2 steps than 6. Removing the AoE toggle and the annoying confirmation you have to perform every single time you cast a spell would greatly streamline casting.

You're not attempting to improve the game, you just want to change the UI to one you prefer.

My UI preferences are besides the point. This is an issue of efficiency vs inefficiency.

[Vanguard319]

I dont like this AOE toggle.
I think separte single target spells and "-ga" spells would make it feel more like a FF.
But i do see the problem with having too much spells to put in your action bars. Hope SE Can find a better solution for the AOE toggle.

the reason why not was already mentioned, also the -ga spells haven't always been AoE, sometimes they've been powerful single-target spells, you may not like the toggle, but it does streamline things and allows for essentially 2 spells to be tied to one slot in the action bar.

[Rowyne]

Also, I do not buy your statment of playing since launch, seeing as how your signature shows you have no classes greater than r24.

I've been playing since closed beta. I started on Rabanastre, then created a new character on Besaid a week after launch.

If you don't believe me, look up my character history on the Lodestone. It doesn't lie.

so what right have you to say what is good and what needs to go?

Maybe the reason I don't push myself to grind to 50 is partly because of the frustration factor of things that sorely need to change in this game.

That doesn't change the fact that I've remained loyal to it and my opinions are just as valid as yours.

[Vanguard319]

Wrong the steps are as follows:

1. select action bar
2. select spell (hit the corresponding number on the keyboard)
3. confirm target (at this time, you can hit z to toggle the AOE on/off as you need, it is part of the step)

Assuming you have your most commonly used spells in the first action bar, the first step can be omitted for a grand total of get this, TWO STEPS!

Once again, your logic, is fail.

[Rowyne]

Once again, you're logic, (and your counting skills) are epic fail.

1. select action bar
2. select spell (hit the corresponding number on the keyboard)
3. confirm target (at this time, you can hit z to toggle the AOE on/off as you need, it is part of the step)

Assuming you have your most commonly used spells in the first action bar, the first step can be omitted for a grand total of get this, TWO STEPS!

There is no way to know for sure which action bar is queued up, so I can't accept that going off memory or chance is a valid reduction of a step.

Lumping in 2-3 actions in #3 doesn't make them a single step, they are still multiple clicks/enters (and whatever the controller does, I have no idea since I play with kb/mouse).

There is no way you can reduce it to two steps.

[Vanguard319]

I've been playing since closed beta. I started on Rabanastre, then created a new character on Besaid a week after launch.

If you don't believe me, look up my character history on the Lodestone. It doesn't lie.



Maybe the reason I don't push myself to grind to 50 is partly because of the frustration factor of things that sorely need to change in this game.

That doesn't change the fact that I've remained loyal to this game and my opinions are just as valid as yours.

I said I leveled to 50, I didn't say I pushed myself to do it. (you can check my history for proof)


Speaking of historys, yours shows no activity between 1/9 and 4/2, and very little activity from then until May, looks like my accusations aren't off base. You can't make good judgments of what needs to stay and what needs to go if you haven't played for months.

[Rowyne]

The fact that you felt the need to respond to my statement validates my argument.

LOLwut?

At this point you're just trolling.

[Vanguard319]

And so is your spelling (you're). Oh, look, I can resort to childish insults, too.


Apparently you don't know how to count, either.

There is no way to know for sure which action bar is queued up, so I can't accept that going off memory or chance is a valid reduction of a step.

Lumping in 2-3 actions in #3 doesn't make them a single step, they are still multiple clicks/enters (and whatever the controller does, I have no idea since I play with kb/mouse).

There is no way you can reduce it to two steps.

sure you can, they are done at the same time time. If you don't use a key board over the crappy gamepad map, that's not my problem.