Scholar & Summoner Main Stats

[Burritoboy]

Does anyone know why Arcanist doesn't have separate stats instead of shared stats for the two different jobs? Also I reset the 30 points from my Summoner and put it into Mind thinking it would be the exact same Mind as my White Mage would be use they have the same gear & they both have primal weapons but Scholar seems to have less and I double checked gear and everything scholar has like 15 less mind. I am guessing the Mnd base stat is lower in Arcanist. I am just looking for confirmation on these observations I made

[KiraJ]

Therefore just reset both and compare em naked. I think it will be the base mind that's different. Maybe you forgot a piece of equipment the other doesn't have. Also maybe the heals of SCH simply don't need the same amount of mnd to be compareable as useful, maybe they are more efficient even with lower mnd support.

[KraggyKor]

Does anyone know why Arcanist doesn't have separate stats instead of shared stats for the two different jobs? Also I reset the 30 points from my Summoner and put it into Mind thinking it would be the exact same Mind as my White Mage would be use they have the same gear & they both have primal weapons but Scholar seems to have less and I double checked gear and everything scholar has like 15 less mind. I am guessing the Mnd base stat is lower in Arcanist. I am just looking for confirmation on these observations I made

I'm sure you'll find the answer among the dozens of other threads round here on precisely this subject.

Hint: it'd be kind of OP if leveling one class gave you DPS and Healing jobs comparable to the others which need two jobs leveling to achieve the same.

[Burritoboy]

Therefore just reset both and compare em naked. I think it will be the base mind that's different. Maybe you forgot a piece of equipment the other doesn't have. Also maybe the heals of SCH simply don't need the same amount of mnd to be compareable as useful, maybe they are more efficient even with lower mnd support.

Arcanist has 12 less mind than Whitemage has that is the difference I found when I was naked.

[KyroeFelix]

Yoshi-P stated in an interview he wants players to pick one or the other, in regards to Scholar v Summoner. So put all your points in MND or INT, depending on which you want to play. They may change this in the future, who knows.

[Laladen]

Hint: it'd be kind of OP if leveling one class gave you DPS and Healing jobs comparable to the others which need two jobs leveling to achieve the same.

So what will the excuse be after other classes get 2nd, 3rd or 4th jobs down the road?

This effects everyone. Just because your favorite class branch only has one job now, don't assume extra jobs you get for that class in the future will have a job added that shares the same primary stat.

You think Thief or Ninja will go under Archer because they share the same primary stat? Doubt it.

Maybe a Thief would be its own class? Maybe. Maybe not?

As someone who wants to play both pet classes...its not very nice being not as efficient as possible in one of the jobs at any given time.

Give all players the ability to level the Jobs independant of the base class and let us spend the points separately. Set the precedent now before other jobs get added.

[adahn]

so Yoshi wants you to pick between SCH and SMN while you don't have to choose between SCH and any other job? In fact it is actually encouraged that you have an alt?
The main thing which decides how useful your alt can be is the gear not the 30 point stat allocation. If the game wants you to level up again for smn I'm fine with that but they shouldn't cripple you at end game.

[alhandra]

if splitting your points or choosing one or the other is "crippling" your end game then you might not be cut out for the job. ive tried it on my sch with all mnd and split mnd/int.... as far as healing goes, there is no noticeable difference, im still spamming adlos at the same time, still only takes a few seconds to top of a tank with lustrate etc. i havent taken my smn into anything past titan hm but with split points i was still able to easily keep up with my end of the dps, slightly harder content may be different i guess. but im pretty well convinced that gear is WAAAAAAAAAY more important than stat allocation

[Laladen]

but im pretty well convinced that gear is WAAAAAAAAAY more important than stat allocation

30 points is a piece of gear. Would you want to push content with your friends without your chest piece on? I don't.

The armory system is flawed with this choice of stat points allocation being tied to the class and not the job.

I will gladly level both jobs from 1-50 seperately to be able to allocate stat points separately.

[PlanckZero]

As an i90 Sch I have 463 mind with just 10 points allocated and the other 20 in Int for my Smn.

Four Hundred and Sixty Three. Those extra missing 20 points account for a whopping 4% of the total. And that isn't even saying I've lost 4% of my total curing potential because then you have to factor in determination and whatever formula actually determines the final cure value etc.

Those extra allocated stats people are STILL bitching about are almost inconsequential in the long run. It's little more than a faint illusion of choice in how you develop your character amongst all of the other cookie cutter aspects of playing the game. If you EVER end up in a situation where someone asks if you have all of your allocated points invested in your primary stat then that person is an anal retentive freak that needs to step away from their parser for a second.