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  1. #11
    Player
    Ninix's Avatar
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    Talim Amariyo
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    They've said many, many times that this is how they want it to be and they won't be changing it.

    It's not a big deal. If you plan on playing both classes about equally, just allocate all 30 of your points into INT so your SMN's potential max DPS is as high as possible. Healers are much, much less dependent on stats and are more about playing properly. 30 MND will not stop you from healing any fight in the game, not even Twintania.
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  2. #12
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    Mcshiggs's Avatar
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    Vizzer Mcshiggs
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Laladen View Post
    30 points is a piece of gear. Would you want to push content with your friends without your chest piece on? I don't.

    The armory system is flawed with this choice of stat points allocation being tied to the class and not the job.

    I will gladly level both jobs from 1-50 seperately to be able to allocate stat points separately.
    Just because you don't like it doesn't make it flawed, it is working they way it is supposed to work, heaven forbid you have to either make a choice, or farm seals to reset your points, I see you never mention that, you just keep saying you have to have one or the other, but you can have both with a little more work. The points are tied to the class, if you haven't noticed you get a stat boost when you equip your job stone, the summoner one gives 10str 11dex 11vit 20int 10mnd and 10pty, if they let you allocate your 30 points they would need to remove this, so you would what net 10 int and loose 10 piety and 11vit and the other basically worthless stats for summoner, remember they are bonus, stop acting like everything needs to be handed to you.
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  3. #13
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    RentisB's Avatar
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    Darrian Grey
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    You could just do 15 in both... Guarantee not a single person will notice. I promise.
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  4. #14
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    Character
    Jojober Sylphingway
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 81
    SCH naked has 12 less MND than WHM because CNJ gets +12mnd in traits, while ACN gets +12int in traits. That's where the difference is.
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  5. #15
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Skadi Felis
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Burritoboy View Post
    Does anyone know why Arcanist doesn't have separate stats instead of shared stats for the two different jobs?
    Because the stats are bound to the class and Summoner and Scholar are parts of the same class.
    The soul stones give the jobs their stat boost.
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  6. #16
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    Laladen's Avatar
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    Character
    Mana Mizuhiki
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by PlanckZero View Post
    As an i90 Sch I have 463 mind with just 10 points allocated and the other 20 in Int for my Smn.
    30 is a larger % of your stats when your not in ilvl 90 gear
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  7. #17
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    Laladen's Avatar
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    Mana Mizuhiki
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Just because you don't like it doesn't make it flawed, it is working they way it is supposed to work
    I never mentioned it "not working" the way it was intended. It clearly is. I do not like it. Looking back though your post history, i notice you posting about a few things not working the way you like them, but yet you did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    stop acting like everything needs to be handed to you.
    I suggested that Scholars & Summoners be able to level separately from 1-50 so they could allocate points differently. This is not asking for things to be handed out as you put it.

    This is not going to be the only class in the game to have two jobs...This is also not going to be the only class that has two jobs with primary stats that are different than the base class.
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  8. #18
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    Vizzer Mcshiggs
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Laladen View Post
    I never mentioned it "not working" the way it was intended. It clearly is. I do not like it. Looking back though your post history, i notice you posting about a few things not working the way you like them, but yet you did.



    I suggested that Scholars & Summoners be able to level separately from 1-50 so they could allocate points differently. This is not asking for things to be handed out as you put it.

    This is not going to be the only class in the game to have two jobs...This is also not going to be the only class that has two jobs with primary stats that are different than the base class.
    If I don't like something, I say I don't like, I don't call it flawed, example, I don't like you, but I'm not calling you flawed, and I know every class will have multiple jobs, I am looking forward to it, my only hope is that they make the Hymns sellable so I can profit off of all the people that cry about farming seals.
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  9. #19
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    PlanckZero's Avatar
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    Braxis Abraxas
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Laladen View Post
    Looking back though your post history, i notice you posting about a few things not working the way you like them, but yet you did.
    Whoa, stalkerish a little?

    "This person disagrees with me, I must search through their post history in order to find dirt that discredits their conflicting opinion."
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Tryst Wildkey
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    Durandal
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by PlanckZero View Post
    Whoa, stalkerish a little?

    "This person disagrees with me, I must search through their post history in order to find dirt that discredits their conflicting opinion."
    Search is available for a reason. I've used it in the past for this type of thing myself. It's also helpful when determining whether you should add someone to your blacklist or not.

    I completely understand why previous posts were searched, I myself had the urge to search. I'm also looking forward to 6 months down the road when extra jobs are available, stemming from the same class. You can bet that I will be as stalkerish as the worst ex-girlfriend when that happens. I'll be searching everyone who complains about the stat allocation to see if they were making snide comments in any threads similar to this one

    EDIT: It's not the disagreement part that brings out so-called 'stalkerish' behavior. It's the deliberate, snide tone that was used, just this side of reportable.
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    Last edited by TrystWildkey; 02-21-2014 at 08:53 AM.

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