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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    snips.
    and if you look at the fight of the scion against gaius in the V1, Thancred act like a ninja or thief, throwing knife, jumping around, Cutscene don't means anything.

    other point, when i say the lore states that gun is a recent discovery in eorzea is true, check the lore. (and i'm not talking of the gunblade)

    another point, yoshida did states that from now, when one class is added they will bring 2 jobs (like for the arcanist/summoner/scholar) sadly for now the jobs for the MSK are Corsair and... well i don't see another jobs that will fit the actual situation of the lore of the game.

    i did read someone say, that DoW are more present than the DoM, sadly it's always the case, more warrior class than magic, check the old game of the series. the number of pure magical class are always less important.
    without forget that actually we have 5 ranged for 4 melee. and if we look from a dps point, 3 ranged (brd/blm/smn) for 2 melee (drg/mnk). without forget that most of the time in the team, you bring 1 melee for 3 ranged dps (not always but most people tend to do this.)

    ps: for the cutscene of thancred and all
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xu4...les_videogames (at 5:50 it begin, i love this fight)
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    another point, yoshida did states that from now, when one class is added they will bring 2 jobs (like for the arcanist/summoner/scholar) sadly for now the jobs for the MSK are Corsair and... well i don't see another jobs that will fit the actual situation of the lore of the game.
    From a mechanics standpoint, something like "Chemist" from FFT (used guns) that is a Healer, or from a lore standpoint it could be Engineer (common FF archetype) with the Job being learned from Cid.

    If something like Chemist was added as a Job, they could get something like Mix where they can combine two of their abilities for a new effect.
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    Edward Volcdegen
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    What happened to the Musketeer? Well, Athos died from grief, Porthos died under a boulder, D'Artagnan was killed in battle and Aramis is hiding out as an ambassador... So we really have no one to teach us.

    But on a serious note, I feel they are putting more emphasis on content the players have said we are lacking, than another class/job.
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    Edwin Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
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    They actually have 3 Jobs they can use for Musketeer's Job choice from past FF games.

    The Oldest Job in FF game is the Machinist Job from FFIV which functions as a DPS/Support or DPS/Debuffer. Cid in FF14ARR is actually a Machanist himself just like the Cid in FFIV and in combat, as shown in a Story Quest, Cid uses a Musket as his main weapon.

    The 2nd is Gunner Job which is introduced in FFVII being the basic pure DPS gun type Job.

    The 3rd is the newest to the gun job familly the Corsair introduced in FFXI being a DPS job focusing on luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thenewzero View Post
    From a mechanics standpoint, something like "Chemist" from FFT (used guns) that is a Healer, or from a lore standpoint it could be Engineer (common FF archetype) with the Job being learned from Cid.

    If something like Chemist was added as a Job, they could get something like Mix where they can combine two of their abilities for a new effect.
    Me and my brother were discussing this earlier tonight and we agree that the Chemist job type is a likely candidate for one of the Musketeer's Jobs. As far as I can recall there is still a shortage of healers in game so introducing a hybrid class that can deal damage and heal could be a viable option; as far as the actual mechanics involved I think it's more likely that you'll have moves that operate independently of the GCD simply having timers. Hopefully significantly shorter timers than popping standard potions in game something more akin to a 15-20 second cooldown with possible buffs like haste or faith.
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    Not sure if I wanted someone pointing a gun at me and say.

    " Stand still! I am trying to shoot you with magical healing bullets!"

    "What ? How do I know if I loaded the right bullets? Well you have to trust me. Even if I loaded those JHP rounds by accident, I'll just need to shoot you twice again with the correct magical healing bullets!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by HumsterMKX View Post
    Not sure if I wanted someone pointing a gun at me and say.

    " Stand still! I am trying to shoot you with magical healing bullets!"

    "What ? How do I know if I loaded the right bullets? Well you have to trust me. Even if I loaded those JHP rounds by accident, I'll just need to shoot you twice again with the correct magical healing bullets!"
    Well I know this isn't SWTOR but that game did quite well with the Healing Bullet stuff.

    Just got to remember that the glowing green bullets with Healing chemicals in them and explode on contact to release the chemicals are the healing ones.

    Speaking of magical healing bullets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Well I know this isn't SWTOR but that game did quite well with the Healing Bullet stuff.

    Just got to remember that the glowing green bullets with Healing chemicals in them and explode on contact to release the chemicals are the healing ones.
    And the ones that also glow green too ain't bio or poison ones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HumsterMKX View Post
    And the ones that also glow green too ain't bio or poison ones?
    It is the Light green that heals.

    Dark green is the one that is poisonous.

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    All i know is, i equipped Aqua Ammo on Balthier, one-shotted a turkey and never looked back
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