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    Quote Originally Posted by TohruHonda View Post
    No no no no no no. Keep real life BS out of our fantasy world, and go play second life.
    Marriages occur in works of fantasy all the time. I just... Wat???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    You know that the article discriminate roleplayers in some way (because it ignore them total as if they don't exist in the game)
    I'm sorry that you've come to this conclusion. I made an effort to include reasons why people might want marriage in game that I could with article length etc, looking at the growing culture of virtual relationships in Japan as an example. I understand that I've not explicitly mentioned people wanting to do it as roleplay, but neither do I say that role-playing is not a good reason to include it. So I apologise if this omission has offended.

    Besides, the argument I put forward isn't the outright scrapping of in-game marriage. It's that if we are going to have it then it should be for all, or it should at least contribute to the gameplay experience.
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    THe majority of female characters are played by heterosexual guys. The majority of male characters are also played by heterosexual guys.
    That presents a problem as far as weddings goes.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radkat View Post
    THe majority of female characters are played by heterosexual guys. The majority of male characters are also played by heterosexual guys.
    That presents a problem as far as weddings goes.
    They wouldn't have to marry each other though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    They wouldn't have to marry each other though?
    THen who do they marry?
    The fact is, the vast majority of players are heterosexual guys. I don't see the point of wasting time and resources in implementing ingame marriage.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radkat View Post
    THen who do they marry?
    The fact is, the vast majority of players are heterosexual guys. I don't see the point of wasting time and resources in implementing ingame marriage.
    No one? It would be optional lol..

    And a waste of time and resources really? This is just ludacris, implementing it in an MMORPG in no way would hurt the straight men of the game. And news flash WOMEN do exist here and they use both genders too. You're just grasping.
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    Last edited by TeaTimeBear; 02-15-2014 at 05:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mogi View Post
    Yes but you forget not everyone in the world is for gay marriage and just like ppl can't force god on others you can't force your ways on others i myself have no prob at all with gay marriage or equality but there are ppl who don't feel the same way are they wrong? what if some ppl don't like gay marriage is it fair to them to add it in this game? this sort of thing works both ways
    Everyone is entitled to their religious or personal views. The people who are anti gay marriage have every right to leave the game if gay marriage is implemented in ff14 ARR. If SE chooses a stance that is more "traditional" then I can take my gaming money else where. It's not going to kill the game if I leave over that issue, all the gays could leave ff14 and the game would still be ok. I am just voting with my wallet since I don't want to support a game company that is not inclusive to my life style. I can't get married in RL because of religious laws.It would be nice if I could at least pretend in a fantasy world.

    And yes, I think it is wrong to carry bigoted opinions. If I thought subjugating other races was just fine, I would be looked down upon for that view.
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    If they have time to create a marriage system which most people won't use anyway, they might as well use the resources to make more proper game content.

    Or even make more puff, puff!
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radkat View Post
    If they have time to create a marriage system which most people won't use anyway, they might as well use the resources to make more proper game content.

    Or even make more puff, puff!
    You pique my curiosity with how you feel. I mean no offense (you 're roe how could I? I love Roes!)but why do you think they can't handle both things? I don't expect it anytime soon believe me. I want you and others to have all the content you can and want. But adding in side dishes to the already approaching feast, is it really so harmful to our community as a whole? Again I want content to be the main focus as you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Trion implemented marriage without gender restrictions, and it was never even a question.

    So again: It's only an issue, because Squeenix decided to pretend it was.
    I'm not saying that they even treat it as an issue. As far as we're aware, Yoshi-P and the other FFXIV staff very well may not mind adding it in; however, they are a smaller portion of a larger company. I'm sure that the tiny FFXIV team don't want to be the ones leading the charge against the very high upper management as well as board members in molding Square-Enix's stance on where they fall in the political debate of Same-sex marriage.

    For one, in the corporate world, things of this nature is a straight-up slippery slope. It's an issue that most companies try to stay out of the media about whether it's good or bad for their media presence. If there just so happened to be a public announcement by the company on their stance as it rides on the coat-tails of the in-game marriage system if they happen to implement it in a traditional sense, then they have to consider their shareholders and what happens on that end too. Keep in mind that SE, as a company, has been in the red for a while now and they're finally seeing revenue come back in with this game. They don't want to mess that up in the slightest.

    Media presence has been back and forth so far, from what I've read, but I've seen several Destructoid articles letting their subscribers know what's new and going on in the game. It would be naive of us to think that coverage of same-sex in-game marriage wouldn't be covered too, which would lead to a number of different ways it could go for the company. It's almost easier for Yoshi-P and his team to just keep doing their work on the game and avoid any sort of stances for the sake of not jeopardizing anything financially.

    So in a sense, it's a "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If another company was firm enough on their stance to just toss it out there, then that's awesome, but not every company's situation is the same.
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    Last edited by Tahldon; 02-15-2014 at 05:32 AM.
    Well... "Common" sense isn't all that common anymore, now is it?

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