Eorzea feels like a world with no teeth.

[Grizzlebeard]

Agree with OP.
The world needs more danger around the corner,
more secrets, rare mobs, hidden places etc.
The zones are beautiful - beautiful but boring.

Regarding the emboldened text, one of my enduring memories from FFXI was being able to explore and find little wonders in the zones. Whether that was the first time I was wandering in Dangruf Wadi and discovered the hidden wall that led to the old Zilart chamber or whether it was wandering through the jungle and as night fell the flowers burst into light and glowed until morning, or changes in zones depending on weather conditions such as Ifrit's Cauldron volcanic activity. There are so many things about this game that seem like a step back from the achievements they made with FFXI. Why make something worse than you've already achieved?

[lolirocco]

As OP stated, it's not a make or break for some but it really could be in a while as people get bored of standing in an instanced lobby.

How can you deny the fact that there is no real reason to get outside of town?

[TheUltimate3]

How can you deny the fact that there is no real reason to get outside of town?

FATE grind? Collect resources? Level up another class? Beastman dailies? The fun of just running? Are those not real enough reasons to go out and do something?

I never really understood the argument that there is nothing to do outside of cities. People thought the same thing in WoW, but on my server I still saw people everywhere. Same here. I see people running around all the time.

[Grizzlebeard]

FATE grind? Why, when DF exp is so much better, you get to play your job rather than spam abilities, and you gain gear upgrades?

Collect resources? Crafting is so poor in this game there's little to no reason to level any of them which kind of makes gathering redundant.

Level up another class? Can be done solely with DF so zero requirement other than getting to level 15 to explore open world. That aside from the fact suggesting someone, "Just repeat the game again on another job" is a pretty poor solution to experiencing boredom on one you've already levelled.

Beastman dailies? If you're interested in a new 120k mount or a 25k minion you can only call in certain areas then sure, you can grind the same 10 quests for 30+ days in one location.

The fun of just running? That's kind of the point, it isn't fun for everyone right now. It's bland and tedious.

Glorious purple answers.

[TheUltimate3]

Glorious purple answers.

Do note, I never mentioned a "requirement" I said "reasons to go out". Isn't it a good thing that people are offered a chance at choosing how they want to spend their free time?

I mean, I won't argue the game could use more things to do, but that's more or less the fault of there only being what Coil, CT, and Primals to do at end game and this game hadn't even had it's first expansion. But I still think that shouldn't mean one should discount the options that already exist and say they don't matter because someone else is bored.

[Tupsi]

FATE grind? Collect resources? Level up another class? Beastman dailies? The fun of just running? Are those not real enough reasons to go out and do something?.

FATE is a terrible reason to go into the overworld LOL.

Collect Resources, most people undercut stuff to oblivion, you can buy most of what you need for very cheap. Even then the "resources" are so limited in this version..

Level up, DF, requires no leaving once you have it unlocked.

Dailies, if you like those...otherwise there's no purpose to doing them unless you want a mount, that does nothing special.

The overworld in ARR is lifeless compared to even XIV 1.x and we know the arguments about that version have "nothing but copy paste."

[ApolloGenX]

It does feel a lot like a lobby game. At the most you might port around to a different lobby... but ... yeah.

[Arkghyom]

Yeah, FFXIV is the new Second Life.

[TheUltimate3]

-snip-

But you're also missing my point. I'm not disagreeing that more can be done in the overworld.

I am disagreeing that people can say there is no point in anything. Because at the end of the day if someone does gain enjoyment out of something, then it served its purpose. I mean, I could flip each of your to the opposite direction, in the end it all depends on what people consider fun and what options they are provided.

I like learning, if you wouldn't mind offering your (read: Open question all are welcome) solution to the "dead world" you see?

[Kimikryo]

I epxected a bad bad rant from the OP, but it really has something "new".

Yeah, in 1.0 getting your explore achievements was a thrilling experience. I remember that zone near the garlemands (I cant remamber if it was already coerthas, I just remember it had no snow it was really really wide and barren and the mobs were frightening for a 30ish lancer otw to his DRG quest, I think we had to team up for it in the long run because it was impossible alone haha)