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  1. #51
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    Buster Posey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ildur View Post

    Healers only have to press exactly one buttong to heal their party in any of the pre-level 40 dungeons: Cure/Psychic.
    Eos solo healed for me up to Blayfox. I rarely had to use physik to heal unless the tank was under geared. This idea that more skills would make low level content easier is laughable when they are already a joke.
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  2. #52
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Precisely, Ildur.

    Though thank you for assuming such wonderful things about me, Moirear!

    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    Eos solo healed for me up to Blayfox. I rarely had use physik to heal unless the tank was under geared. This idea that more skills would make low level content easier is laughable when they are already a joke.
    I'm leveling sch currently, and this is so true. Even in Brayflox, she does everything. Pop on Cleric Stance and forget about the rest.
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  3. #53
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    Cirra Maru
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cspr_Answrth View Post
    I agree with this as a DPS person - learning your rotation serves as a means of maximizing your damage output and overall effectiveness in higher dungeons.
    By doing lower level dungeons, and having your higher level abilities removed, you cannot focus on rotation...
    If you have a hard time with DPS in low level dungeons roll a tank. PLD gets shield oath at level 40, anything below that you have bugger all to get threat. WARs get Defiance at 30, it's hard work to get threat from over-enthusiastic DPS when you have two skills.
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    Coy Rabbit
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    I apologize if my post has offended some of you. I did not mean to come off as whiny. And I appreciate all the advice and support thats been given in this thread. I would just like to take a quick moment to reiterate my original post: I don't feel the low level dungeons are too difficult. I enjoy helping low levels. I enjoy my high level abilities and think it would be fun to still have them in a scaled down version while doing this stuff.

    Of course there are pros and cons to everything. Both sides have valid points. But its a little unfortunate that sides were taken. Honestly, I was not trying to start an argument and it seems I struck a nerve with some posters which was unintended.

    Thanks!
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    Moonfrost Hailstorm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foomerang View Post
    I apologize if my post has offended some of you. I did not mean to come off as whiny. And I appreciate all the advice and support thats been given in this thread. I would just like to take a quick moment to reiterate my original post: I don't feel the low level dungeons are too difficult. I enjoy helping low levels. I enjoy my high level abilities and think it would be fun to still have them in a scaled down version while doing this stuff.

    Of course there are pros and cons to everything. Both sides have valid points. But its a little unfortunate that sides were taken. Honestly, I was not trying to start an argument and it seems I struck a nerve with some posters which was unintended.

    Thanks!
    unfortunately you will always have oppoisition even when it makes no sense to you as to why
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  6. #56
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    Fey Darkwalker
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    The messed up thing I find is when I'm running a low instance on my Whm I don't have access to Stoneskin yet another class can have it as a cross-class ability and freely use it. The current system seems like it was written on the bag of a fag packet with little thought at all.
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  7. #57
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    Her Majesty
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 60
    GW2 manages to pull this off well. The sad truth is that regardless of the excuses they give us for the decision it was probably easier for them to simply adjust our levels than to do all the math of scaling abilities down. More lazy programming with a bad excuse to cover for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cspr_Answrth View Post
    I agree with this as a DPS person - learning your rotation serves as a means of maximizing your damage output and overall effectiveness in higher dungeons.
    By doing lower level dungeons, and having your higher level abilities removed, you cannot focus on rotation...
    Given you're way over-geared when doing low level stuff maximising DPS is hugely irrelevant to being able to clear it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    GW2 manages to pull this off well. The sad truth is that regardless of the excuses they give us for the decision it was probably easier for them to simply adjust our levels than to do all the math of scaling abilities down. More lazy programming with a bad excuse to cover for it.
    GW2 manages to pull this off BADLY, BECAUSE they don't take away OP high level skills.
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    No. I have spoken.
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    May your innards remain so

  10. #60
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    BLM lose firestarter/Umbral and Astral III aswell as fire/blizzard II so their rotation turn into fire spam - blizzard spam
    Fire, Blizzard, Lightning and Aero. Sometimes also Sleep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard View Post
    The messed up thing I find is when I'm running a low instance on my Whm I don't have access to Stoneskin yet another class can have it as a cross-class ability and freely use it. The current system seems like it was written on the bag of a fag packet with little thought at all.
    Because only your current class get level-synced. The cross-skill level sync nerf is the reduction of unlocked cross-skill slots.
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    Last edited by Felis; 02-11-2014 at 09:07 PM.

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