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  1. #31
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    Adonis Faolan
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    Aren't some skills introduced to help scale and meet the demands other dungeons present? Would unskilled new players learn more or less through grinding their dungeons while grouped with synced players?

    I can see how it makes this all much more fun for higher levels synced down, but it just feels like it would have new players running these dungeons for the first time start depending on the higher players that sync in to just carry them through all dungeons. While the stats are scaled appropriately, it doesn't change the fact that there are more hate generating abilities and many more damage dealing abilities that carry other additional perks. If you have 2 DD that have maybe 1 or 2 DoTs to apply they aren't doing the same DPS as 2 DD that suddenly have 4 or 5 different DoTs each they can toss on a mob. Mobs die quicker, dungeon gets easier, and the noobs you are synced with are no wiser and level quicker. Just my two cents on the matter.

    Not saying it wouldn't be fun, but would it be detrimental to new players learning experience? We already have enough complaints about bad players and "FATE training" all the way to certain level in some jobs.
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    Last edited by inkuzen; 02-11-2014 at 09:31 AM.

  2. #32
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    That is a valid point. New players would probably choose not to party with other new players hoping the sycned players will carry them harder.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    That is a valid point. New players would probably choose not to party with other new players hoping the sycned players will carry them harder.
    This doesn't actually happen in MMOs where the syncing works as described (i.e. scaling down stats and power of abilities without removing the abilities themselves).
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  4. #34
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    Kimikryo Torahige
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    This doesn't actually happen in MMOs where the syncing works as described (i.e. scaling down stats and power of abilities without removing the abilities themselves).
    But still the stronger ability is there giving them an advantage over those not being highlevel.

    Why do you guys want to have everything as easier than ABC =.=

    You whined with the big pool of abilities in 1.0 you whine because of the smaller ability pool you whine because you cant caste Ultima as level 1 Culinarian whats next you whine because you cant fish 1-50 in your Innroom while lieing on your bed? *sighs*
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    Who the hell equates "too hard" with "boring"? Especially given the context that higher level dungeons (which are inherently harder) are more interesting?

    Sounds more like an excuse to make a snide, yet unwitty remark.
    So what exactly does make sastasha more interesting when you can use scaled down 50 abilities? If anything it makes it more boring.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    So what exactly does make sastasha more interesting when you can use scaled down 50 abilities? If anything it makes it more boring.
    It's the difference between pressing 1 button over and over and over again, or pressing 5+. One button instances are dull as all get-out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    You whined with the big pool of abilities in 1.0 you whine because of the smaller ability pool you whine because you cant caste Ultima as level 1 Culinarian whats next you whine because you cant fish 1-50 in your Innroom while lieing on your bed? *sighs*
    Who is this "you"? Certainly not me. Though all those... random accusations have absolutely nothing to do with the situation at hand.
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  7. #37
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    Oh excuse me for not inserting "I DONT MEAN YOU PERSONALLY I MEAN AAAAAAAAAL THE WHINERES AAAAAAL OF THEM ... including you"

    Well I ask again, why do low level Content as 50 when it bores you? There are better ways to get tomes and gil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    Well I ask again, why do low level Content as 50 when it bores you? There are better ways to get tomes and gil
    There are people who play this MMO besides myself. I happen to enjoy helping people. It would be nice if my skill set wasn't reduced to one or two buttons whenever I did. How is this hard to understand?
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  9. #39
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    You know, I help people all the time, and you won't see me begging for my high level skills. Why? Because I know how to play my classes also on low levels to their full potential not needing the extra skills.
    Yeah of course a low level tank has problems keeping hate with missing skills. But it wouldn't make the live easier for new tanks, if other player had even more skills to use to make their live hard.
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    I have been asking myself the op's question since release. I'd even be happy if an entire zone synced us down to the level of the zone...if we kept all our abilities and spells.
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