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    Foomerang's Avatar
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    Botanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    rotations only matter when you are able to use ALL your abilities. Meaning once you reach 50. If you miss a level 19 Ability in Sastasha while being 22 it doesn't matter.
    You want to do cool 50 moves? Why not play as level 50? In Level 50 Content? And Unless you get ifrit as low level roulette. Nothing is worth the time for the few extra tomes you can get by other means faster.
    I appreciate the advice
    I enjoy helping low level players (I play a tank as my primary DoW class). Perhaps that should be its own reward haha. I was just thinking out loud and wondering if others felt the same way. Or maybe I would get lucky and an official response would say something either way.
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    Ryios Locke
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    Level Sync should be a 100% scaling function. E.g. instead of loosing abilities and becoming a lower level you should stay level 50 and it should scale down your vit, mnd, int, def, det, crit, etc etc etc. Meaning you have all your abilities, but they do less dmg, last longer, aren't as strong, etc.
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    Kimikryo Torahige
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    Guys, if the low level dungeons are to hard for you when scaled down. Missing the one or other abillity. Please dont queue up for any ex primal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    Guys, if the low level dungeons are to hard for you when scaled down. Missing the one or other abillity. Please dont queue up for any ex primal.
    Thanks for taking the time to reply. Personally, I don't have a difficult time with the low level dungeons. In fact, I find them pretty easy. The point I was making in my original post had more to do with enjoying all the fun stuff my class can do at level 50 while being scaled down to run low level dungeons. I guess you could say its less about difficulty and more about fun combat.
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    Biuma Arvinda
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    I never get bored in low-level dungeons. Something I find enjoyable is figuring out how to maximize efficiency after such extreme down-synching. If you're only using 2 abilities, even as low as Sastasha, you're actually doing something horribly, horribly wrong.

    I find it rewarding to help out new players and find new ways to speed up the process of utterly destroying low-level dungeons. I also think it's awesome to burst through the low-level dungeons in 20 minutes.

    Sometimes I wonder if people should only get DFR bonus rewards if they are awarded by the players who are not in the duty due to DFR. I'm always half afraid of all these players running DFR low-level dungeons and doing the opposite of helping new players, basically, and then just reaping rewards.
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    Buster Posey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foomerang View Post
    I like helping people out in low level dungeons, but it is not very fun to lose so many fun abilities in the process of helping others.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    You want to do cool 50 moves? Why not play as level 50? In Level 50 Content?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    Guys, if the low level dungeons are to hard for you when scaled down. Missing the one or other abillity. Please dont queue up for any ex primal.

    Think you missing the point.
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    Guys, if the low level dungeons are to hard for you when scaled down. Missing the one or other abillity. Please dont queue up for any ex primal.
    I'm...going to agree with this lol. You went through the low level dungeons without the abilities before, why do you need them now..? It's "boring" because you moved beyond the content.

    What SE should have done, however, is make tiered abilities, that way we could have our abilities but the lower level versions for everything, much like they did in FFXI and XIV 1.0, where you had even..well, let's just say 1.0 had the better spell list till people complained about "too many abilities."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    I'm...going to agree with this lol. You went through the low level dungeons without the abilities before, why do you need them now..? It's "boring" because you moved beyond the content.

    What SE should have done, however, is make tiered abilities, that way we could have our abilities but the lower level versions for everything, much like they did in FFXI and XIV 1.0, where you had even..well, let's just say 1.0 had the better spell list till people complained about "too many abilities."
    That is actually a pretty cool idea. Its also good to know that SE has already done something like this in FFXI so perhaps it will be implemented in a future patch hehe. Thanks for bringing this up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foomerang View Post
    That is actually a pretty cool idea. Its also good to know that SE has already done something like this in FFXI so perhaps it will be implemented in a future patch hehe. Thanks for bringing this up
    Actually, this game DOES do level sync pretty much just like FFXI does. In FFXI, you lose all abilities that are above the level cap. This means, for example, if you had Fire, Fire II, Fire III, Fire IV, and Fire V at level 99, when capped to level 30 you would only have Fire and Fire II. So, at most level caps, you have access to SOME kind of Fire - but uncapped, all but Fire V were pretty much pointless to have in your spell list, except under rare circumstances.

    I much prefer the way that this game handled spell tiers. Fire I, Fire II, and Fire III aren't just the same spell with different potencies - they apply fire damage in different ways. Fire is the workhorse, Fire II is aoe, Fire III is powerful but expensive and inefficient, unless a Fire renders it cheap and fast. Even endgame, you still have a use for Fire. The same cannot be said to be true in FFXI. (Or, that was the case until recently with the introduction of "Magic Damage +" gear that greatly upgraded tier I nukes - but that's another story.)
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    Botanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Actually, this game DOES do level sync pretty much just like FFXI does. In FFXI, you lose all abilities that are above the level cap. This means, for example, if you had Fire, Fire II, Fire III, Fire IV, and Fire V at level 99, when capped to level 30 you would only have Fire and Fire II. So, at most level caps, you have access to SOME kind of Fire - but uncapped, all but Fire V were pretty much pointless to have in your spell list, except under rare circumstances.
    Ah I see. Thank you for clarifying.

    I also want to thank the rest of the folks so far who have chimed in. Good to know I'm not alone on this
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