Ezorean Pride Parade (open to all)

[Fiorana]

stop pushing your religious, political and real world ideology into the games we play. .

But here is the catch though, you're pushing your ideologies into the game I play.

[Yurikitty]

Despite the huge props I give the OP for trying to do something for the Olympic games and such, and the fact that I love my LBTG friends and yes, I think we need to do something about hate and rights and all that jazz, I play this game for one reason. I play this game to forget the outside world. I dont want to hear about religion, or politics or that school shooting. I dont want to see that kind of stuff in my game, not because I dont care, but because I am so fing sick of it in real life!

This is my hobby, my other world. And I would thank people to stop bringing in all that outside shit please. You are bringing me down man.

[Lukahn]

I'd like to point out that while they're fighting to have there romantic preferences represented in game, half of the players play a character that is a different gender than themselves. It's impossible for gay males to even accurately represent their own preferences, if they are playing a female, (and vice versa.) Yet square enix is supposed to?

[Phe]

This is just a fun event idea for all players no matter of their gender or sexual preferences.

Yay!

[Razzle]

However Mhaeric, it's not YOUR game.

I don't know why you feel so confident with that reason and keep bringing that up. It's not my game so what? We can tell SE what changes we would like in THEIR game, obviously that's acceptable by SE themselves seeing how we have this forum.

Telling SE to put same-sex marriage is the same as someone telling them he'd like a Shiva mount...

Now if SE say "no" and people take that as "they hate gays" that is kinda going overboard lol

(That said, I'd also like to have same-sex marriage if we ever get that in the game lol)

anyway INB4lock

[Shioban]

arbitrary stuff

"You're offended over nothing"

POT CALLING KETTLE BLACK, considering you've written me an essay. I'm not offended by anything, just curious and confused.

"offended
əˈfɛndɪd/
adjective
1.
resentful or annoyed, typically as a result of a perceived insult."

Offended isn't the correct word to use here, sorry~

So, a parade shrouded by an Agenda is something I can't discuss or question either?

Now who's being unfair~ I could have just sat there and twiddled my thumbs, but what's the point in that?


I'm not attacking the gay community specifically, if it were a "Setting fire to toddlers" event, or "Russian Pride" event, I'd provide the same question "What is the point in shrouding it with an AGENDA"

My point yet again is; The game has not discriminated anyone yet, as I've already pointed out people in this game seem to feel otherwise. Rendering your point complete moot on "Gender/Sexual Equality" where none of its matters in Eorzea currently.

Which to say again is Ridiculous, that you're trying to be a social justice warrior out to do damage control against me when there's nothing for 'fight' for essentially.


THERE IS NOTHING, specific in this game currently that forces players to fit a particular sexuality. The closest you've encountered in an NPC /pose'ing and having to trade a lump of pixelated chocolate with another play. BIG DEAL.


If you're still struggling to understand what the you and some others in the thread want everyone else to do, here's a visual chart;





Yet again to itterate, this isn't a "LGBT" focused attack as you seem to be hell-bent on trying to curve at me, quite the opposite. It's the intended effect thats the problem and the overall point of it, NOT the specific community.

tl;dr

People seem to be struggling to grasp my point.

The event itself isn't the issue. I've actually enjoyed the walks through Eorzea in the past. THIS IS NOT THE ISSUE.
The social justice warrior undertones are the issue. (I.E Discrimination is happening!!! (when it really isn't))




BUT SHIO, I WANT TO GET MARRIED M/M ~ F/F ~ T/T! SE NEED TO KNOW THIS!!

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Okay, bear with me on this one, and have an open mind completley ignoring most of what I've said so far.

Square Enix are a big company, that make a lot of money and are based in Japan.

Homosexuality is taboo worldwide, there's no denying this fact. It is still a very sensitive topic.
Square Enix as a company have to consider what's best for the companies image. This includes understanding the laws, cultural nuances across the globe and the general attitude towards things.

Applying this to the game could have multiple outcomes, some could bolster Square Enixs reputation, part of it could tarnish their reputation as a company.
Media attention is very important and has a huge influence on sales and support for the company as a whole.

As a company they have to approach topics like this VERY VERY carefully.

This might not appeal to everyones tastes or their particular beliefs/wants, but as a whole company they have to decide amongst themselves what is best. They are fully aware that the demand exists and that it would be used if it was implemented, the problem lies in whether they believe its pros outweigh the cons for doing so.

Be an adult and be respectful towards their decision either way, as a whole this is a game it's not necessary to have this added after all.

Shioban, I love you man. Honestly though, there's little point in debating this anymore. People can't get over that it's a video game, people feel the need to bring real life problems into everything

"But I want everything done MY way! ~ GR SQUARE ENIX!

[Not directed at the event again, just the social justice undertones]

[Kazahashi]

Shioban, I love you man. Honestly though, there's little point in debating this anymore. People can't get over that it's a video game, people feel the need to bring real life problems into everything (which honestly RUINS things people, it doesn't make it better), etc etc. My only wish, would be that the crowd supporting this would understand that most of us don't care if SE says "We think gay marriage fits in Eorzean lore, so we're adding it"....what we care about is this ridiculous movement for a VIDEO GAME where there's no need for such a rights movement, because it's absolutely inane and silly to think that we have to bring real life issues into everything else we touch. It's not making a stand and making things better or paving the way for anything, it's literally creating a divide in a community, the one that everyone claims is such a big deal when bringing up their LGBT movement. The community itself is CREATING these "social issues", no one else. People are FINDING reasons to be upset and take up arms for something.There is no reason to continually look for every hint of "discrimination" in everything so we can all band together and wave flags in peoples' faces. GET OVER IT.

Your sexuality is your sexuality, I have supported this throughout the thread. However, this is a video game, and in no way represents real life. Most games even state "this is a work of fiction, etc etc", so can we please leave it there? As a work of fiction and not someone's biography?

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

The people in this thread are the reason we have so many problems in real life.

I'm thoroughly disgusted.

[Kazahashi]

The people in this thread are the reason we have so many problems in real life.

I'm thoroughly disgusted.

Yeah, you're right. The people in this thread are all gay bashers, homophobes, and everything else you can think of (may as well just spell it out since we're all so disgusting). We are the REASON you have so many problems in life.

Good god....over exaggerate much?

[Shioban]

The people in this thread are the reason we have so many problems in real life.

I'm thoroughly disgusted.

Your real life problems can't translate here necessarily. That's a completely different set of problem. Just because we're not completely agreeing with your particular opinion and saying "YOU GO GIRL!" is no reason to get upset, that's what children do "THEY DIDNT AGREE WITH ME /huff". And adult gets over it and sucks it up.

BUT ANYWAY, not related to the topic at hand.

Stop getting upset and offended by me and or other people in the thread simply because they don't share your opinion, to quote Stephen Fry;

“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so f****** what."

[I saw hate in a graveyard -- Stephen Fry, The Guardian, 5 June 2005]”

Also, "we" being who?

Because, I can assure you that the most people won't give a rats behind if you're gay as long as you're not throwing it in their face and flaunting it and telling everyone you come into contact with "I'M GAY!". I think you can do the math on how I know this to be true, you work it out, because I can find more people than myself who never encounter these real-life issues by being sensible about it.


[MOUNTAINS OUT OF MOLE HILLS. Mountains. Out. Of. Molehills.]

How ironic that you would quote Stephen Fry, of all people.

More appropriate than ironic. You won't see Stephen Fry parading butt-naked with a feather in his hair through the streets of a city, I can assure you.