Personally, I'd rather you scrap the Armoury System then Lock 1 Job to 1 Weapon.

[TheVedis]

To add i hate the idea of the job system. It basically turns off the POINT of our current system and bring back a lot of grievences frim ffxi. Like playing as class/jobs no one likes, cookie cutting, min/maxers and/or elitists "running" the show setting up absurde rules and regulations. Much like summoner only being a healer. Or rdm being forced to backline when they wasn't suppose to.

The job systems sound to be very restricted and I wanted to play because of the supposed freedom the armory system was suppose to bring.

Fix the battle system but don;t add the job system. Let us players create our own classes like it we was suppose to be allowed. People aka the minb/maxers just need to stop complaining about being perfect since perfection doesn't exist.

missing the point as usual

you can ignore the job system and play as the classes the same as you do now
the jobs only will let you specialize more, dont wanna specialize? dont use them

[Eldaena]

missing the point as usual

you can ignore the job system and play as the classes the same as you do now
the jobs only will let you specialize more, dont wanna specialize? dont use them

That's not entirely true. They are re-evaluating the classes too. What skill and abilities they have and what is able to be used between classes. It will not be the same as it is now. They are streamlining the classes some as well it appears.

[TheVedis]

That's not entirely true. They are re-evaluating the classes too. What skill and abilities they have and what is able to be used between classes. It will not be the same as it is now. They are streamlining the classes some as well it appears.

but classes will still remain more versitile
based on what theyve said before, jobs will specialize, youll get bonuses and penalties for using them
youll have abilities locked out, and unique to your job if you use them

thats JOBS, not CLASSES they are doing that too

the various abilities getting changed are moreso geared towards the battle changes in general(auto attack for instance) along with some adjustment for the new job system

basicaly, alot of the most powerful abilities will probly become more restricted, but alot of that is already how it is now(well some of it is anyway)

[Kilta_Firelotus]

but classes will still remain more versitile
based on what theyve said before, jobs will specialize, youll get bonuses and penalties for using them
youll have abilities locked out, and unique to your job if you use them

thats JOBS, not CLASSES they are doing that too

the various abilities getting changed are moreso geared towards the battle changes in general(auto attack for instance) along with some adjustment for the new job system

basicaly, alot of the most powerful abilities will probly become more restricted, but alot of that is already how it is now(well some of it is anyway)

your not realizing something, players willl force people to use their "jobs". Which will bring in "jobs" of the mnth , long party waits, cookie cutting pretty muchg all that stupid bs from ffxi.

[TheVedis]

your not realizing something, players willl force people to use their "jobs". Which will bring in "jobs" of the mnth , long party waits, cookie cutting pretty muchg all that stupid bs from ffxi.

elitism? whoever heard of that

glad im in a shell that wont promote it

but if a job is better for you, why wouldnt you want to use it if itl help you out?

oh i forgot, you dont like to do things normaly, you like to gimp yourself and give everything away from free

[Eldaena]

elitism? whoever heard of that

glad im in a shell that wont promote it

but if a job is better for you, why wouldnt you want to use it if itl help you out?

oh i forgot, you dont like to do things normaly, you like to gimp yourself and give everything away from free

So using any job presented could be gimping yourself? Then I'd say the game is broken. If it's not equal among the classes, then why would anyone want to take up other classes/jobs and gimping themselves in the process?

[TheVedis]

So using any job presented could be gimping yourself? Then I'd say the game is broken. If it's not equal among the classes, then why would anyone want to take up other classes/jobs and gimping themselves in the process?

actualy, it was more a stab at the person i replied too
theyve openly stated they like to gimp themselves, give gear away for free(cuz its evil to charge for anything) and so on and so forth



my actual point in the gimping though is this

yes, you can use or not use a job, some people will consider you "gimped" if you dont use them im sure, but until we see the job first hand itl be hard to tell

Maybe i wanna be a pugalist and not equip monk, cuz by equipping it i can no longer equip healing spells that let me solo?
BUT in a group, i wanna be a monk to maximize damage since i will have a healer

in this case, BOTH have their advantages, wethers its maximizing efficiency or gimping

[Kilta_Firelotus]

So using any job presented could be gimping yourself? Then I'd say the game is broken. If it's not equal among the classes, then why would anyone want to take up other classes/jobs and gimping themselves in the process?

they saying not using a job= gimp. Which is a pathetic terms from the imature children gamers. Gimp players are the bad players no batter if they are in the best or worst gear. If they can't be skillful in their ability usage they are gimped players.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

elitism? whoever heard of that

glad im in a shell that wont promote it

but if a job is better for you, why wouldnt you want to use it if itl help you out?

oh i forgot, you dont like to do things normaly, you like to gimp yourself and give everything away from free

You the one gimping yourself into being restricted to a single role. The more roles a person can do for a party the better they are. I was a very good player in ffxi and WoW i take pride in my jobs. I didn't need the "best" to be good that is the point of enjoyment.