Tanks That Hate Fluid Aura

[NekoHina]

I play WHM and my husband plays PLD, so I hear about tanks and fluid aura a lot.

There are generally only 2 occasions that I use it in a party that come to mind quickly.

1) I have a macro set to fluid aura the target that is aggroed on me. I use it only if an enemy peels off from the pack and the tank hasn't noticed. I will send it back toward the tank so he/she can then flash or whatever they choose to do to re-establish hate.

2) When the big pudding boss does his target on you and begins to chase you in WP. If you can manage to Fluid aura him away, then you don't get pudding slapped.

Other than that, I understand that fluid aura causes tanks sone big issues and it is best not to use it in a party. It is an awesome tool in solo play, but messes non-casters up if they are targeting the same enemy.

[C-croft]

Whenever whm use fluid aura on random target, i usually let the whm takes the responsibilities of the consequences.
I hope that whm has much more defense and better way to control hate than tank.

Medica, swiftcast medica, cure, cure 2 spam. You can tank at least one group of mobs in this fashion. For a fun video, look up WHM tanking Titan HM on youtube. Epic awesomeness.

[Langureion]

Medica, swiftcast medica, cure, cure 2 spam. You can tank at least one group of mobs in this fashion. For a fun video, look up WHM tanking Titan HM on youtube. Epic awesomeness.

Don't see your point.
Let me know if there's a whm can tank T4 and control hate of multiple enemies.

[Strov]

As a tank you do a couple things...

If you are attacking a group of monsters (2-3) you switch between them and use your rotation on them to keep aggro on all, or you focus on one (primary one) and flash every other time to keep the others on you. If a WHM now goes and knocks one out of your flash / skill range then that enemy will be taking more heal aggro and less tank aggro meaning if tanks does not go chase it down to hit it..most likely will go for the healer next.
It is very stuborn and childish of you to insist in using an ability that does no good to anyone if you use it randomly on the "second add" without the need to do so. That move is ment to be used on specific occassions, such as WP 2nd boss when it comes after you or when a minion looses tank aggro and goes after a healer or a caster. In fact you should not be using that ability even when tank looses aggro and a melee is getting hit as it will just make it harder for the tank to regain control of the fight.

[Quiz]

Oh thank god. Checked my data center..... not in the same one as this guy

OP:

[Moirear]

Sorry, but as someone who tanks and plays WHM both a lot, I think the people who never use Fluid Aura or only use it for tank fails are doing it wrong. There are plenty of instances when you can safely use it:

• The mob cannot be pushed back (usually bosses, but some regular mobs also cannot be moved)
• The mob is so close to a solid wall that you can hit it with FA and effectively not move it at all
• The mob is about to die and displacing it has no consequence for anybody
• Re-positioning mobs so the tank can pick them up easily or so they're located to trigger a script

Pros:

• Extra damage on the enemies for no MP cost
• Instant cast, only gives you the GCD action delay
• Respectable damage especially in Cleric Stance
• Inflicts Bind status effect, which if nobody attacks the mob, means it's incapacitated for a short amount of time (usually long enough for a Respite/Sleep or at least just to buy yourself some time for another good heal)
• Did I mention no MP cost... on the one class whose bane is MP management?

Cons:

• If used recklessly, moves mobs in ways that put extra burden on the tank or mess with their enmity management
• Melee range ability, puts you at risk if being close to an enemy causes you damage
• Off-GCD, which also unfortunately means you can't spam it in situations when it would be great to do so
• It takes a few seconds out of your healing time, which is deadly if your party or tank needs the heals instead... but then why are you doing anything but healing, anyway?

Conclusion: In the right hands a very useful, underestimated, and misunderstood tool in the WHM's repertoire.

Also, on a personal note, I really can't stand it when healers stand around doing nothing in cases where there's little risk for them to dps a little or provide any form of utility instead of waiting to heal people, but WHM could always (rightfully) argue that they need to manage their MP. There's no excuse to not use Fluid Aura in the proper situations in that line of reasoning though, because it costs no MP and most bosses do not move when you hit them with it.

[Bluevann]

I don't use Fluid aura unless:

1) I'm solo.

2) I get aggro and have no way to run to the tank to let him flash/hit it back.

And never get complaints for that.

[waldo]

Equate this to a paladin tanking with shield oath, it can be done but it's a pain for healers.
If you're healer says stop using SO, and the tanks response is 'get over it I'll play like I want!' Well that paladin sucks. So if you're using a skill that makes little to no difference positively and are asked to stop and you refuse, you probably suck too.

[warren-ragnarok]

I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do. Tanks will just have to adapt.

people like this are why im a lazy tank, im not gonna work harder cuz you make my job harder

also, when used well, fluid aura can be quite useful, but too many people dont know how to use it well, or are just plain stupid....also, if your at higher levels and got a pld tank, you should just use repose instead

[TitanACU]

I love how everyone is getting butt hurt on here. I main PLD and alt WHM. The truth is Fluid Aura can be a great skill if you know how to use it. First off, unless like in this case, its a dungeon below lvl 40, if the tank consistently loses hate after the first flash/overpower, he shouldn't be tanking imo. Patch 2.1 made tanks generate hate so much faster, especially WARs. By level 40 the player should know how to tank. Player hatin aside, you can help out with this by giving the tank about 10 seconds and using Fluid Aura only when needed. There are two main uses for Fluid Aura. First, is the obvious, if the tank loses hate on the mob that isn't the primary target, you can use it to save a party member or yourself. The other use is one that I've only seen one other person, besides me, use it for; Fluid Aura can cancel any charged skill as long as the target is not immune to knockback. This is perfect for AoEs.
Also, when you use fluid aura in these situations, at least try to plan ahead. Like someone said before, try to use it so that the mob hits a wall so he doesn't move or you can position yourself the same distance away from the tank every time. You'll have to get a feel for it but, with some practice, you can actually shoot mobs directly back to the tank so they can be grabbed by flash/overpower. I've actually had a tank thank me once for helping him regain hate.
So all in all fluid aura is a great off-global-cooldown move that should not be ignored but should also not be used carelessly, as it can very helpful, aggravating, or could make the tank take more damage since he's focusing on hate rather than CDs(and sometimes i swear you cant block/parry if attacked from behind, might just be me though :P).

I'm a tank and I approve of the use of Fluid Aura as long as its not being used just for the hell of it and you make it have a purpose. XD
Have fun, relax, and just enjoy the game!

( While i was typing this a few people beat me to the punch :P )