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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
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    Sweet, one less thing I have to worry about, just keep bangin' away the rotation. Thanks!
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  2. #102
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    Blue Lightt
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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBrooks View Post
    I dunno, DRG has a 31-32 move rotation (that's counting oGCDs, and there is a best way to use them), with absolutely mandatory positionals, for optimal DPS.
    Positionals are absolutely mandatory on Monk as well for optimal DPS. Yes, Monk you don't miss out on debuffs/buffs if you miss a positional. However in DRG, you only need to do a positional correctly twice out of your entire rotation where every regular rotation ability MNK does aside from Touch of Death it is mandatory for optimal DPS you are in proper positioning. Neither are difficult, I play both classes regularly and don't feel either is more difficult/demanding than the other.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subucnimorning View Post
    Positionals are absolutely mandatory on Monk as well for optimal DPS.
    It has been explained repeatedly that DRG positionals are not only mandatory for optimal DPS, but for rotation whatsoever. The combo does not even work if we don't get the positional off; it is a harsher penalty in regard to positioning. That's all I, or anyone else, was saying

    Quote Originally Posted by Subucnimorning View Post
    you only need to do a positional correctly twice out of your entire rotation
    Assuming that you mean the same thing that I mean, and that the rotation is 32 moves, there are 5 positionals.

    I believe I also said that I don't think either is harder than the other. My message was that people who think MNK is harder simply don't understand what it means to play DRG well. They're equally challenging.

    Quote Originally Posted by Subucnimorning View Post
    Neither are difficult
    They're certainly more complex, rotation-wise, than the proc masher jobs. Whether that's more/less difficult, depends on the user, I guess.

    For example, most mistakes I make while using BLM are directly related to me laughing over Mumble about how easy the job is.
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    Last edited by JetBrooks; 02-07-2014 at 06:06 AM.

  4. #104
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    Omagana Primus
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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBrooks View Post
    It has been explained repeatedly that DRG positionals are not only mandatory for optimal DPS, but for rotation whatsoever. The combo does not even work if we don't get the positional off; it is a harsher penalty in regard to positioning.
    No one said otherwise (unless I've missed a post).

    Quote Originally Posted by JetBrooks View Post
    Assuming that you mean the same thing that I mean, and that the rotation is 32 moves, there are 5 positionals.
    He's saying dragoon has two positional abilities, monk has six. Every monk combo ability is positional.

    Quote Originally Posted by JetBrooks View Post
    I believe I also said that I don't think either is harder than the other. My message was that people who think MNK is harder simply don't understand what it means to play DRG well. They're equally challenging.
    Now this is where opinion comes in. I play both, i85 and i82 (neither main). I find dragoon easier to play well in most fights, personally.
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  5. #105
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    I hear your numbers and facts, but here's my personal anecdotes as rebuttal.
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  6. #106
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    You can't tell me what to do, you're not my real dad!
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackThought View Post
    I hear your numbers and facts, but here's my personal anecdotes as rebuttal.


    You called?
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