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  1. #31
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    Bardo Phor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodomir View Post
    That still won't cut it.
    Just because it's not optimal doesn't mean it's not possible/fun.
    Take this TITAN Hardmode - DRG Tank video for example.
    Skull sunder does about 300 potency worth of enmity when it's not combo'd. If he would have thrown in Phlebotomize (the only on-gcd ability that drg has that does more than 300 potency per gcd) and jumps, as well as hitting a Heavy Thrust every now and then when Titan was casting Landslide or Weights to get keep his damage buff up, the other dps probably could have gone all out.
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    Last edited by Bardo; 02-06-2014 at 04:26 AM.

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    Skyhound Solbrave
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    Coeurl
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    The problem is that this was posted in the DPS forum when this should have been posted in the Tank forum. The Lancer class in general can serve as a really good tank, but the DRG Job is nowhere near being able to tank. If you take off the job crystal and use some cross class abilities, it can be beastly. Honestly all you would need is Flash from GLD and you're good.

    Though if you stick with DRG, it won't be as good. We just don't have the AoE to hold mobs. Although with just a 20 str/10 Vit stat point split, my own DRG can OT pretty well. I can tank the skeletons on Bone Dragon and the slimes on Cad without problems.
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  3. #33
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    Robin Locksley
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    Incorrect. LNC already have access to tank armor in the form of complete sets of scale armors. Iron scale set (ilvl23) steel scale set (ilvl32), horn scale set (ilvl38), tortoiseshell set (ilvl46). These likely exist to in part to bridge the gap between class (LNC) and tank job, since endgame LNC as a DPS cannot equip tank armor. It is likely that the job would simply gain access to additional heavy armorsthat the class does not, just as SCH has access to endgame healing equipment and books which ACN cannot equip. Additonally, LNC design is terribly similar to MRD already and could easily be adapted to tanking.
    Yea, that is exactly what I was talking about... that 3rd tier of Scale armor, haub's, and GC gear that is "light Heavy" armor.... And how many low level tanks would ever even bother using it? NONE, unless it was aetherial or Green, and and upgrade over your outleveled gear that you were too lazy/too poor to upgrade.... They aren't competent tank gear to begin with.... and compared to the tank heavier gear of the same levels, is totally inferior.... even though it looks way better.

    My point was... if LNC was to become a second job tank class, which I agree that it probably will be at some point... the armory system will need a minor overhaul..... like will LNC and said job now have access to the 2 piece Darklight gear? Will this said new class now have access to the Allagan ilvl90 gear for both tanks? Will the existing tank armor stay the way they are, and a whole new line be developed for LNC/???.... and re-scattered throughout the associated low level dungeons, and end game raids?
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    Elysia Mazda
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyHighDN View Post
    Yea, that is exactly what I was talking about... that 3rd tier of Scale armor, haub's, and GC gear that is "light Heavy" armor.... And how many low level tanks would ever even bother using it? NONE
    I'm afraid you need to go back and look at the equipment. It has the same defense stats as any other tank armor. Kokoroon's Darkshell Mail has identical stats to HQ Mythril Cuirass, for example. The most defense you can get on a DRG right now? Ilvl46 tortoiseshell with ilvl50 Mosshorn Scale body. Higher defense than full ilvl90 (and much higher magic defense). It's tank gear, not the odd asymmetric stuff that DRG wears at endgame.

    There is no overhaul to make. You offer the job additional access to tank gear just as SCH gets access to healer gear where ACN does not. It's not complicated.
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