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  1. #1
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    Chronos's Avatar
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    Chronos Black
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50

    SCH BiS With Allagan/AF2/R30

    Weapon-Allagan
    Head-Allagan/AF2
    Chest-AF2
    Gloves-Allagan
    Belt-Af2
    Pants-Allagan/AF2
    Shoes-R30 (Gain 21 crit. Lose 11 Piety and 21 Spell speed over Allagan boots)
    neck-AF2
    Ear-AF2
    Wrist-AF2
    Ring1-AF2
    Ring2-R30( Gain 16 crit. Lose 11 spell speed and 11 det over Vortex Ring)

    "But Chronos...u lose 54 stats to gain 37. that seems bad to me" My answer would be that Crit is the most important off stat to a SCH. Crit adlo/succor is insane. 37points is about 2pct extra crit chance. crit also increases the strength of the crit, im not sure by how much tho. Spell speed is worthless because u always have lustrate. 11 piety is no issue since u should never run out of mp anyway. 11 det is = to about 1.5-2 Mind. not much of a loss.

    Some would argue that Royal shoes are BiS now but you should never sacrifice mnd/vit for a small increase in crit. The only piece w/o crit now is your head. Grand total crit is 560!

    The only problem with this is you gotta be R30, like myself, to be able to use it. Happy Arena gentlemen. It's a fun grind. At this point, if your arent super hardcore, i would recommend just waiting until 2.2 to get i100 stuff and make this entire list pointless.
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    Last edited by Chronos; 02-06-2014 at 10:13 PM.

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    Lucipurr's Avatar
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    Estrella Light
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I'm thinking of doing this too. I'm r25 but it's only 50% of the way to r30 zzzz
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  3. #3
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    I'm not a SCH...but I have to say, relying on crit and crit alone just screams "bad idea". Crit only increases the chance of getting a crit...it does nothing to increase the strength of crits; you need DET for that. Crits always increases healing/damage by 50%; lower base = lower crit strength.

    What is your base Physic heal for? Base Adlo? Are you able to hit a 2K shield going full crit build on a non-WAR, no Eos buff or Convalescence?

    Are you really willing to trade heal potency for a slightly better chance to crit shield (the only reason for this build), eating mana and never guaranteed to actually crit when you need it to save your target?

    Just things to consider.
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    YuiSasaki's Avatar
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    Yui Sasaki
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I'm not a SCH...but I have to say, relying on crit and crit alone just screams "bad idea". Crit only increases the chance of getting a crit...it does nothing to increase the strength of crits; you need DET for that. Crits always increases healing/damage by 50%; lower base = lower crit strength.

    What is your base Physic heal for? Base Adlo? Are you able to hit a 2K shield going full crit build on a non-WAR, no Eos buff or Convalescence?

    Are you really willing to trade heal potency for a slightly better chance to crit shield (the only reason for this build), eating mana and never guaranteed to actually crit when you need it to save your target?

    Just things to consider.
    DTR is kinda pointless. <.<

    Afaik 4 DTR equals 1 MND/STR/INT/DEX and 1MND equals 1.6Healpoints on Physick. So far I never had any problems with not healing enough.
    Nevertheless, it's all just a "PoV-thing".

    Edit: If you are not stacking DTR, it's the same as with SpS, thats not stacked. Pointless. :>
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    Last edited by YuiSasaki; 02-07-2014 at 02:44 AM.

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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
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    Even with DET you will never be able to hit 2k Adloqium unbuffed.
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    You still say AF2 body over direwolf? SCH just doesn't need the piety...
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    Yui Sasaki
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    Even with DET you will never be able to hit 2k Adloqium unbuffed.
    He wrote 2k Adloq shield. In other words 1k Adloq crit-heal. DTR would be nice if it would boost adloq heal to 2k. xD
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    Pike Incredibro
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    just throwing it out there: this build, with HQ deviled eggs, puts you above a 21% crit rate. i think it's definitely viable.
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    Character
    Leo Strut
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
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    Crit is extremely important for SCH because of two reasons.

    1. Adloquium
    2. Enhanced Pet Actions

    Now, as for Physick and Adlo in my crit gear, I did a little test. This is unbuffed -- no food, no party, 100 casts of Physick and Adlo.
    Spell Name: Min / Avg / Max / Crit %
    Physick: 984 / 1124 / 1558 / 21%
    Adloquium: 740 / 862 / 1174 / 38%

    Any of my Adlo crits are well above 1000, meaning my Galvanize is always going to be at least 2000 absorbed.

    Note that I'm full BiS with the exception of lacking the allagan healing circlet. Also, remember, this is fully unbuffed.
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    Horaiyo Shirou
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Out of curiosity, what's your average adlo value non-crit?
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