SCH BiS With Allagan/AF2/R30

[PArcher]

I'm not a SCH...but I have to say, relying on crit and crit alone just screams "bad idea". Crit only increases the chance of getting a crit...it does nothing to increase the strength of crits; you need DET for that. Crits always increases healing/damage by 50%; lower base = lower crit strength.

What is your base Physic heal for? Base Adlo? Are you able to hit a 2K shield going full crit build on a non-WAR, no Eos buff or Convalescence?

Are you really willing to trade heal potency for a slightly better chance to crit shield (the only reason for this build), eating mana and never guaranteed to actually crit when you need it to save your target?

Just things to consider.

[YuiSasaki]

I'm not a SCH...but I have to say, relying on crit and crit alone just screams "bad idea". Crit only increases the chance of getting a crit...it does nothing to increase the strength of crits; you need DET for that. Crits always increases healing/damage by 50%; lower base = lower crit strength.

What is your base Physic heal for? Base Adlo? Are you able to hit a 2K shield going full crit build on a non-WAR, no Eos buff or Convalescence?

Are you really willing to trade heal potency for a slightly better chance to crit shield (the only reason for this build), eating mana and never guaranteed to actually crit when you need it to save your target?

Just things to consider.

DTR is kinda pointless. <.<

Afaik 4 DTR equals 1 MND/STR/INT/DEX and 1MND equals 1.6Healpoints on Physick. So far I never had any problems with not healing enough.
Nevertheless, it's all just a "PoV-thing".

Edit: If you are not stacking DTR, it's the same as with SpS, thats not stacked. Pointless. :>

[Thorauku]

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Even with DET you will never be able to hit 2k Adloqium unbuffed.

[YuiSasaki]

Even with DET you will never be able to hit 2k Adloqium unbuffed.

He wrote 2k Adloq shield. In other words 1k Adloq crit-heal. DTR would be nice if it would boost adloq heal to 2k. xD

[Zaft]

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Crit is extremely important for SCH because of two reasons.

1. Adloquium
2. Enhanced Pet Actions

Now, as for Physick and Adlo in my crit gear, I did a little test. This is unbuffed -- no food, no party, 100 casts of Physick and Adlo.
Spell Name: Min / Avg / Max / Crit %
Physick: 984 / 1124 / 1558 / 21%
Adloquium: 740 / 862 / 1174 / 38%

Any of my Adlo crits are well above 1000, meaning my Galvanize is always going to be at least 2000 absorbed.

Note that I'm full BiS with the exception of lacking the allagan healing circlet. Also, remember, this is fully unbuffed.

[KarstenS]

What is your base Physic heal for? Base Adlo? Are you able to hit a 2K shield going full crit build on a non-WAR, no Eos buff or Convalescence?

Are you really willing to trade heal potency for a slightly better chance to crit shield (the only reason for this build), eating mana and never guaranteed to actually crit when you need it to save your target?

Thats a question, I did also think over. All that "what is BiS" talking is based on static benchmarks like on traning puppys or selfhealing for some time without any real fight.

For example look at T4, the first DN, when it eats all 4 bugs. Beside his autoattack it does something like a cleave. Sometime both hit nearly the same time. Sometime they crit the same time. When this happens (sometimes the next crit pack is not fare away), the pala tank can loose around 6000 HP nearly instant. So whats to do? The tank has to get topped the whole fight. Keeping up Adlo eats to much mana. To keep someone topped, you need heals that will be there for sure. So that can be only done by maxing out the base heal. Skilling to crit will make wipe or win to much based on luck in my eyes. Also crits will be the most time useless overheal.

[YuiSasaki]

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Well, yes sometimes the crits can kinda frighten you, but apparently you forget some things.

1. You are not healing alone and if you can trust the other healer you'll never have problems.
2. There are some things to reduce incoming damage (e.g.: Virus; Eye for an Eye; Adloq pre-cast, etc.)
3. Panic-Button-Lustrate will save the day

Not to mention, that - in my opinion - +100 Heal on Physick (and that is quite high calculated) won't save the tank. Plus I am not running out of mana even if I'm overusing Adloq - which I am to be honest^^.

On a side note - to answer the one you quoted: I'm critting with Adloq for 1020 (sometimes more sometimes less; never seen a crit below 1k for quite sometime) on a PLD without buffs.