SCH BiS With Allagan/AF2/R30

[Chronos]

You still say AF2 body over direwolf? SCH just doesn't need the piety...

True you dont need Piety as much...but its more useful than morale in pve. I feel that losing 37 total Piety is just too much. 10 crit (about .4pct chance) isnt worth it. Remember that aetherflow is based off of your total mana pool.

That being said...the direwolf chest is an extremely viable piece.

[Alistaire]

True you dont need Piety as much...but its more useful than morale in pve. I feel that losing 37 total Piety is just too much. 10 crit (about .4pct chance) isnt worth it. Remember that aetherflow is based off of your total mana pool.

That being said...the direwolf chest is an extremely viable piece.

37? You lose 26. Which idk if it's always linear but came out to 190 MP for me. If you're going to go for R30's and don't already have AF2 body, you should probably save the myth points.

[Brady672]

Ugh, I really have no interest in doing PvP, but I guess it's something I would eventually do...

Question for anyone here but mostly TC, for some slots you have allagan AND AF2. My question is what's the difference, or is the difference so minimal it doesn't matter?

[SeraviEdalborez]

Ugh, I really have no interest in doing PvP, but I guess it's something I would eventually do...

Question for anyone here but mostly TC, for some slots you have allagan AND AF2. My question is what's the difference, or is the difference so minimal it doesn't matter?

Non-PvP Crit BiS
Allagan: Hands, Ring (subjective)
Primal: Nothing (Vortex Ring over Allagan Ring is subjective)
Myth: Everything else*
*Myth and Allagan are identical for head and legs, and feet are close enough to not really matter. Assume this applies for below unless otherwise stated

PvP Crit BiS
Allagan: Hands, Ring
Primal: Nothing
PvP R30: Body, Feet, Ring
Myth: Everything else

Det BiS
Allagan: Hands, Ring, Body, Neck, Ear
Primal: Inferno Bangle, Vortex Ring
Myth: Everything else

And Allagan grimoire of healing from turn 5 goes without saying.

[TheHomieData]

just throwing it out there: this build, with HQ deviled eggs, puts you above a 21% crit rate. i think it's definitely viable.

[horaiyo]

Out of curiosity, what's your average adlo value non-crit?

[Zaft]

It ranges from between 750 to 780 (again, no buffs, food, etc).

[SeraviEdalborez]

My gear is Allagan book/ring, Royal gloves (Allagan doesn't exist...), and Myth everything else. MND is 483. Did enough casts to get a decent range, this is what I get.

Adlo: 746-784, 1112-1160 crit
Physick: 996-1049, 1500-1561 crit

Probably a bit wider for max-min as I only did enough that the range of values looked good enough.

One could argue that "relying" on a crit is bad form, but there aren't many situations where I feel I want more consistant heals (Det) over the (fairly decent) chance of crit Adlo, or even crit damage if I'm going all out. The fact of the matter is that a Det build is only 4-5 pieces different from the non-PvP crit BiS (Allagan body/ear/neck, Inferno Bangle, Vortex Ring if you weren't already using it). Not gonna produce a really large difference imo.

[Alistaire]

It's really just body/feet/ring you'd even consider over alternatives. Not the end of the world either way. I happen to like PVP and if it's a way to save on some myth as well, that's just a bonus.

[Daenerys_Sedai]

it's a way to save on some myth as well, that's just a bonus.

My first thought was: They're just going to raise the ilvl so why grind PvP for pieces that may no longer be BiS?
My second thought was: But wait, PvP will probably also raise and you'll save whatever the myth equivalent of iLvl whatever using the wolf marks.

How long did it take you to grind up to R30?