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  1. #11
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    If they wanted to make SCH/SMN easy by having a pet that assists you, I think they have done all but the opposite here. SMN/SCH are the hardest to play now, because you not only have to manage your own skills, but also your pets which are on a completely different GCD (3 seconds instead of 2.5) in addition to having several place/obey/stead/sic commands at your disposal just to even use your pets effectively and manage movement.
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    macro's people.... macro's
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  3. #13
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    I personally like to manually control Eos and have all of her abilities on my hot bar. Simply targeting a mob and hitting obey/heel and she'll not only follow you around but you'll have extra healing tools at your disposal. Using something similar to the gambit system seems lazy, and while I can see it working for an ability like whispering dawn I feel like fey illumination and fey covenant are most effective when under your own control. I just can't imagine a gambit system that would ideally know when Eos should buff magic def by 20% and healing potency by 20%. The way Eos is set up right now is perfectly fine, and no having Eos follow the tank does not sound like a good idea.

    Also simply putting Eos near the tank and having her use her abilities at will shall definitely work in dungeons but it's not gonna cut it in more difficult fights. A good scholar controls Eos and knows when to use her abilities. Target mob>obey/heel and learn to love it. It may seem clunky at first but it'll greatly improve your healing effectiveness.
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    Last edited by Fran636; 02-04-2014 at 07:55 AM.

  4. #14
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    I use 'place' but how do you get the fairy to follow the tank?
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  5. #15
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    Aldo Von'alexandros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avette View Post
    Having read your arguments, I have to disagree with making the AI inherently better. Since the last patch, I have been using mouse-over macros with the fairy on Obey->Follow to great effect. Proper micromanagement of the pet is what distinguishes a great scholar from his peers. In more challenging fights like Ifrit Exreme, I make the most out of Eos by manually placing her, shielding her, and commanding Rouse/WD, Fey Illumination, and Fey Covenant as completely unique abilities. Left on autopilot, Eos would blow her load immediately and the healing burden would be dramatically higher. I would prefer this to remain so that scholars will have to play well in order to perform well.
    she is right, listen to her

    Quote Originally Posted by Klandestineone View Post
    I use 'place' but how do you get the fairy to follow the tank?
    this can not be done

    Quote Originally Posted by Soulburn32 View Post
    macro's people.... macro's
    also true, search the post for macros, it will make your life easier
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    Last edited by AldoVonAlexandros; 02-04-2014 at 12:02 PM.

  6. #16
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    Sakura Kumanoko
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    I have a question, that touches on this. How do you do this for the PS3 with an already full bar. I find it tricky to quickly scroll through the 3 bars available, the third is pet only and the second is for overflow skills. I've heard a lot of discussion of controlling Eos on a PC, but nothing via PS3... So, I'm curious if anyone else has experience with it.
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  7. #17
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    Sulwyn Caliope
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    Tonberry
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ph03n1x13 View Post
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    I have multiple bars for different purposes. My first bar is what I call my DPS bar. I put basic healing skills, aetherflow and all my dps skills on it. My next 2 bars are my healing bars. They're essentially identical but one bar has Eos skills on it and the other has Selene skills. There's just no way to fit both of their skills on one bar while keeping all of your own essential sch skills on the same bar. Since the fairies can't be out at the same time anyway, I just made almost identical dedicated bars for each fairy. My last and 4th bar is what I have termed my miscellaneous bar where I put all non essential skills/ items. I put my pet summoning macro on this bar and my obey/ heel macro too. It's a bit annoying to have to switch bars to summon and put my fairy on obey mid battle but it's the price we pay for using a controller I guess.
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  8. #18
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by AldoVonAlexandros View Post
    she is right, listen to her



    this can not be done



    also true, search the post for macros, it will make your life easier
    It is not entirely true that you cant make Eos/Selene follow a target, however it will be via making them continuously turret heal a target.





    Solution for cramped hot bars
    macro more than one skill to slot e.g, I have rouse and WD on same slot, Bio and Bio2 etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph03n1x13 View Post
    I have a question, that touches on this. How do you do this for the PS3 with an already full bar. I find it tricky to quickly scroll through the 3 bars available, the third is pet only and the second is for overflow skills. I've heard a lot of discussion of controlling Eos on a PC, but nothing via PS3... So, I'm curious if anyone else has experience with it.
    The hot bar for Eos/Healing for me is as follows in a clockwise position from left to right: Rouse/Fey Covenant/Fey Illumination/Whispering Dawn - E4E/Resurrect/Virus/Swift Cast - Aetherflow/Lustrate/Embrace/Sacred Soil - Physick/Succor/Adlo./Leeches. Just hit R1, target your mob, hit obey then heel and you're good to go. An identical setup is used for Selene. Hope this helps.
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  11. #20
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    For people looking for tips on PS3 / Gamepad and how to SCH

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...d-Only-Edition

    I have followed this guys advice and can say if you follow what he says and then learn to expand on it SCH on gamepad is just fine and can be played quite well.
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