Force PS3 players to migrate over to PS4 and then drop support for it

[Mikedizzy]

I have really no issues playing on PS3 and my experience is fantastic...I guess the true test is when I finally play on PS4 and see if I have actually been "missing" something all along and just did not know it. Ignorance is bliss right now because I don't know what I am missing...maybe if I knew someone playing on a bad ass PC and got to see them play then I would know for sure. Are the graphics actually better? Or is it just the frame rate??

[Elazu]

Are the graphics actually better? Or is it just the frame rate??

Why is this even a question? Of course it looks much better on PC...it's also not missing any animations and is not a slideshow.

[Pseudopsia]

I have really no issues playing on PS3 and my experience is fantastic...I guess the true test is when I finally play on PS4 and see if I have actually been "missing" something all along and just did not know it. Ignorance is bliss right now because I don't know what I am missing...maybe if I knew someone playing on a bad ass PC and got to see them play then I would know for sure. Are the graphics actually better? Or is it just the frame rate??

My attempt to burst your bliss bubble.

PC version is only as good as how well your PC is built. If your PC is very old or has very weak video card you can get a worse experience on a PC.

Build yourself a ~700-800 USD PC while a chunk(about 200+) is spend on video card and it's superior to PS3 version, or equivalent to PS4 version.
- PC like this can render at 60 FPS in most places at 1080p, no issues in highly populated fates. 100 max characters rendered. More graphical enhancements such as anti aliasing you can turn on.
- PS3 is max 30 FPS at 1280x512, stretch to 720p. has issues in high populated fates. 40 max characters rendered.
- PS4 should be equivalent to PC version at max settings and hardware is around same performance as this PC.

Example 800 USD gaming PC build(without windows):
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...e-i5,3708.html
Note: Hardware in this setup is much more powerful than PS4. PS4 video performance is 1.8 TFLOPS. 280x can do 4.1 TFLOPS. When article was written 280x price was $300, however it's $400+ now (I blame bitcoin miners). Replace with GTX 760 (250 USD).

Extra bells and whistles for the PC players with extra money:
- 120hz or 144hz monitor. FFXIV supports setting refresh rate higher than 60hz and render higher than 60 fps. Makes game look more fluid. Requires lot powerful video card or multi video cards; and faster CPU.
- Triple monitor. Requires lot more powerful video card or multi video cards.
- 4k UHD monitor. Requires lot more powerful video card or multi video cards.
- SSD(Solid state drive). Speed up loading times and loading game resources. You can actually replace the HDD on the PS3 and PS4 with a SSD too to improve loading times.
- It is planned that SE will release a Directx 11 PC client about 6 months after PS4 version. This client will be better than PS4 version.
- etc.

I have an expensive setup. My setup is i7 3930k @ 4.5 Ghz, GTX Titan, Samsung 512MB SSD and Samsung 27" 120hz 1080p monitor. Average frame rate is around 90 FPS.

My next upgrade:
http://rog.asus.com/296652014/news/r...aming-monitor/

[Rivienne]

I have really no issues playing on PS3 and my experience is fantastic...I guess the true test is when I finally play on PS4 and see if I have actually been "missing" something all along and just did not know it. Ignorance is bliss right now because I don't know what I am missing...maybe if I knew someone playing on a bad ass PC and got to see them play then I would know for sure. Are the graphics actually better? Or is it just the frame rate??

As someone who plays both, PC can look nicer if you can support the graphics. High end. Also you get to see a lot more players in a given area at a time. It is a little smoother, and a lot cleaner of a picture if you can turn it up all the way, but none of those things detract from the PS3 version. People who think it does are simply being kind of snobbish about graphics. FFIV is a beautiful game on the PS3. It is simply more beautiful on the PC.

FYI, while I played with high settings to see it, my system can't cope, so I ended up having to drop it down to a much lower rate, and it is about the same as PS3 on low. So PC doesn't magically mean better. High end PC is where the biggest differences come in.

[BotenAnna]

I have really no issues playing on PS3 and my experience is fantastic...I guess the true test is when I finally play on PS4 and see if I have actually been "missing" something all along and just did not know it. Ignorance is bliss right now because I don't know what I am missing...maybe if I knew someone playing on a bad ass PC and got to see them play then I would know for sure. Are the graphics actually better? Or is it just the frame rate??

Many endgame fights require extremely tight timing and positioning, and/or a lot of wiping and reloading, all things the PS3 are terrible at especially for people who need stuff like Battleping to play since there isn't anything like that on the PS3

The biggest problem with the PS3 is that they can't do anything that the PS3 can't do, and the PS3 has a pitiful amount of memory even compared to a low-end computer, which severely limits the UI and overall featureset they can offer.

[Pylfer]

Many endgame fights require extremely tight timing and positioning, and/or a lot of wiping and reloading, all things the PS3 are terrible at especially for people who need stuff like Battleping to play since there isn't anything like that on the PS3

I play on PS3 and do better in the EX fights than most people running on solid computers. Maybe people with PS3 issues are using old PS3s? Have really bad internet? Don't have their PS3 hardwired in?

I intend on getting the PS4 to play FF14 on it, but the idea of dropping service for the PS3 is ludicrous at this point. I mean, they would lose... SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH MONEY.

You are basically saying "If you want to continue paying 14.99 a month for this game you must first spend an additional 450.00 on new hardware" in which most people would say "NNNNOPE, not worth it" cause 450.00 is a lot of money.