Can we please stop giving melee bad stigma?

[xEscaflownex]

I find it really hard to believe that with right rotation and equal gear brd can dish out more dps than summoner on a single target, as much as it makes me sound like a jerk you providing those screenshots don't really proof anything as we don't know how you played and what gear you really have, or do your parsers even tell the truth.

A. You do realize there's quite a bit of RNG where BLM single target DPS is concerned, especially over the course of just a few minutes, bad luck with thunder cloud/fire starter procs = low wend, awesome luck = high end, I didn't get many during that parse lol, feel free to put up some BLM parses.

(I thought you said BLM in your post ha, but as far as SMN...Pretty sure I'm not screwing up the whole 3 dots I have to keep up on the target, ruins, festers, contagion, or pet Buffs (Rouse/Spur), ACT was reading flaming arrow, but not shadow flare for some reason, so that could account for a bit) but again feel free to go bang on something for a similar duration and see what you get.

B. All 3 are i86

BRD: EX Bow, Allagan Head, CT Chest, AF2 Hands, AF2 Belt, DL Legs, DL Boots, AF2 Neck, AF2 Earrings, Ifrit Wrist, Garuda Ring, AF2 Ring

BLM: Zenith Staff (have EX as well but parse lower with it), AF2 Head, AF2 Body, DL Hands, Allagan Legs, DL Feet, Allagan Neck, Allagan Earrings, Allagan Wrist, Allagan Ring, AF2 Ring

SMN: Allagan Book, AF2 Head, CT Body, DL Hands, Allagan Pants, DL Boots, AF2 Neck, Allagan Earrings, AF2 Wrist, Garuda Ring, AF2 Ring

As far as rotations, I feel pretty competent on all (I do play BRD the most though), but Im not claiming to be an expert, feel free to post your own numbers and show me your 1337 rotation

**I've done all EX and Cleared T5 on each of these jobs, and never been on the low end of damage in any group, so while I could simply not be the best at them, I find it hard to believe I'm screwing up the use of the few BLM and SMN abilities in the extreme...

***(And even NoctisUmbra's parse showed his BLM lower than the 2 BRDs, so, take that as you will, it happens sometimes obviously)


C. I've always used app in the past, I switched to ACT as noctis required, if anything, it showed my DPS going up lol, apparently FFXIVAPP was under-reporting, also, as far as Im aware its pretty much download and go, I changed like 2 settings (turn off all but allies, dot clipping detection turned ON) So...I'm not sure how I could make it...lie??? But sure, I suppose its possible. But then, who knows if your parsers even tell the truth either?

I wasn't really trying to prove anything, Aldric asked me to do dummies in comparison to his, so I did, the only point I really made out of that was Noctis saying BRD couldn't hit 300 dps when it can easy.

I'll save T5 tomorrow night as Noctis requested, awesome job on DMG, but those disparities seem weird to me ha, I single BRD in my group, so Im singing all the songs, not sure how BOTH of yours are so low/far behind you unless they had bad rng with being in conflag/stunned by dreadknights a lot, with two BRD I would expect a strong one and a Weak one (If one doing the brunt of Ballad and the other doing none at all) or Both being pretty equal (if alternating it. ). I've also never had less than a 30% crit rate on T5, so I don't know how theirs are below 20%, and I don't know how your BLM is so far behind you either.

The only similar case Ive seen to this was my first few T5 clears as SMN, back when I had 3 less competent DPS in my group, at the end my SMN would be 40-60k ahead of the next highest. Obviously mob only has so much HP, only so much dmg can be done to it, if your other DPS are lacking, you pretty much end up carrying them/getting a larger piece of that pie.

I haven't had this issue since getting "better" DPS in my group, where we all end within 10-15k~ of each other (assuming one person doesn't get screwed with every conflag and DK stun).

So IMO the 50-60k disparity between you are your 2 BRD/BLM is more an issue of them not playing their classes to their max vs DRG being OP