People sacrifice good gear for "fashion"

[charliesheen]

*sigh* read all posts before making a ragefest please. You've completely missed the point and instead decided to toss the word "elitism" around like it's a toy.

Yet another epic winning post from Ventus. Round of applause people!!!! Once again proving if you don't agree with Ventus, your post will be slated as a ragefest or trolling. Good job Ventus. Well done. Etc.

[azarashi]

I cant being to count the people I knew that had "town gear" in XI. I myself had certain pieces I would wear just cause I liked the look more so when i was strolling through town or out and about. As well I would ignore certain armor sets as I played the game because though they might be a bit better, if they looked ugly I didn't want to wear them.

So far in XIV I have hurried to get a different armor piece or swapped for something slightly "worse" just because I hate the look.

[Cairdeas]

I cant being to count the people I knew that had "town gear" in XI. I myself had certain pieces I would wear just cause I liked the look more so when i was strolling through town or out and about. As well I would ignore certain armor sets as I played the game because though they might be a bit better, if they looked ugly I didn't want to wear them.

So far in XIV I have hurried to get a different armor piece or swapped for something slightly "worse" just because I hate the look.

I refused to wear Hauberk and Haubergeon style armors because everyone else did, Instead I focused on full sets like the Sipahni and Unicorn set. I always looked bad ass in parties, and no one could ever say I wasn't doing my job because I never used normal job combos anyway.

LOL SAM/DNC And I'm main healing? Sure!

[TirionCrey]

Cuz ummm its true.

Honestly those guys and gals. I never seen or had gear make or break a party. It was the actuall skill. Stats on gear never meant anything in any mmo I played it gave just a possible 5% increase Which isn't truely needed. Here is the thing you guys like Crey etc use the term job in a literal sence, please don't. Its a video game stop being so Type A over other people. I played ffxi in the some of the best and worst gear and in the same set up as everyone else. I honestly saw no difference in my "job doing". People can ware the best gear and be level 50 or 100 in every class in mmo and still suck. Its all in attitude. Try to "solo in a party" and you will die because your not being a team player. Instead of kicking the "gimpy geared person" change up your routine maybe back off a bit.

If you read my posts again you will notice that I never used the term job even once. I use the term class on purpose, cause that's what they are called. If they would be called jobs, as in XI, I would call them jobs. This doesn't mean that I'm thinking of a "class" or job with your words in a literal sense. But if you're doing something, don't you try to do it good, cause it will make you feel more accomplished(and therefore more fun)? That's what I do at least and this is what makes it fun to me. And every serious MMO has gear that makes a huge difference. FFXI had such thigns as well. Try to let a PLD tank Bahamut v2(not the zergfest, the way the battle was meant to be and done at the beginning) with less than 1600+ HP. Chances are, he will die a lot. BLMs in Bahamut v2 needed a shitton of Elemental Magic Skill+, cause his resistance was horrible. BRDs had a hard time Finale-ing Bahamut v2s Protect/Shell without the Skill+ Equip, or even a Gjallarhorn.

Try Dynamis Xarcabards Wall of Death w/o BLMs with a LOT of Enfeebling Magic+, cause chances are, if one Sleepga misses, the whole group will be dead. If you never played an MMO that had a real difference between wearing crap and good gear, you either played none of the major MMOs, or you never played the "hardcore" Endgame content, that didn't just expect skill from a player, but also gear.

And you seem to miss my whole point of the discussion. The people wearing gimpy gear ON PURPOSE(I think I need to repeat this like a hundred times for people to notice it) are the ones being selfish and that's all I really talked about. I never talked about gimply geared players being dumb, or bad, or got no skill or w/e. I talked about gimpy geared persons who wear gimpy gear on purpose AND joins parties, although they could wear better gear, are the ones being selfish, cause they put their personal fashion above the benefit of the group. And as soon as you join a group of players PARTY>SINGLE PERSON and if you don't think that way you shouldn't play an MMO in the first place.

[Akubikumo]

Id also like to point out that I just went to the markets to buy a new frypan and knife and it turns out that a royal kitchen skillet is 150k+ while a bomb frypan is 90k (even saw one for 53k but wasn't fast enough). i also bought the mythril knife for 50k as opposed to an iron knife for 150k. are both these thing WAY above my rank? yes but they were also half the price. The price competition is ironically causing the high-lvl gear to be cheaper than the mid level stuff. the choice is obvious to me.

[charliesheen]

I have to step in here and say, in FFXI wearing good gear was the difference between your character being truly good, and not. That's not to say there wasn't alternatives to the norm as shown by cairdeas, but if you wore crap gear, chances are your WS would miss, or your debuff wouldn't land.

I think the whole point of this topic is that someone stated they think people shouldn't be "allowed" to wear whatever they want to wear, and implied that wearing anything that isn't the most optimal meant you would suck. For a IN GENERAL GAMING opinion, I think most people, even those who like to wear something cause it looks cool, would agree that wearing all completely crap gear is a terrible idea. But when it comes to this game in particular, as others have pointed out countless times now, the stats mean close to nothing.

So should people be "allowed" to wear what they want, in THIS GAME? Sure.

[Krausus]

Hello my name is Krausus and I where Mosshorn Scale Mail instead of a Vintage Hauby I am a drag on my parties and an all around baddie because of it.

[Molly_Millions]

Hello my name is Krausus and I where Mosshorn Scale Mail instead of a Vintage Hauby I am a drag on my parties and an all around baddie because of it.

Well Krauses, you can just go right ahead and go mining in your Mosshorn Scale Mail because that 12 defense loss is gonna be the death of you and your entire party.

/end sarcasm