People sacrifice good gear for "fashion"

[zaviermhigo]

I haven't been sacrificing good gear for fashion and its been leaving me ho hum feeling about my gear. Cooler mage gear please. I do hate when someone shows up to a party in crafting gear because its "prettier" than their mage robes.

[TirionCrey]

When stats have little to no effect, that situation can't really happen. Who cares about hypothetical situations, the fact of he matter is gear doesn't matter a whole lot in this game, and for that matter neither does death.

Nobody really denied that gear right now has little to no effect and I see no problem with people wearing whatever in groups atm, cause it won't do much anyway.

But I'm not talking about hypotheical situations, I'm talking about basic behaviour of people playing this game. There is a chance that those people will actually change from "fashionable" to "useful" gear once stats do matter, but chance also is, they still go with fashion and give a fuck about the rest of the group. And those are the ones I'm talking about. They have the possibility of gearing up(and again, I'm not talking about HQ+3 best of the best) but they just don't WANT to and even the neccessity of working together with other players(let it be leves, NMs, dungeons whatever) doesn't let them even think about doing something that would cross with their sense of style. That's the most selfish crap you could do. You rely on other people to do well, while you are handicapping yourself on purpose. I don't want such players either in my group and yes not even on the server. I don't want racism and terror on the world too, it won't happen, so will it not in the game as well, but I can still "dream" of perfect conditions I guess. Discussions like these are actually meant to make those players think and maybe think about what they are doing affects other players. If you want to be fashionable and be glamorous in your gear do so, but once its effecting other people, go with what the game is supposingly giving you to not handicap yourself. You can be all fashion and style afterwards again when you're on your own.

And we do know that stats and their effect will change in the upcoming patches, so very soon it's not hypothetical anymore(assuming SE manages to get difficult or challenging fights into the game)

[Krausus]

What anime is that

Darker than Black

[zaviermhigo]

I would beg to differ that gear has no effect, the stats that come on it like +pie or +dex don't matter, but the mag def and def on a piece do matter. Mag def is my best friend as a mage, its the only reason why i eat magic attack other than emulate. I think acc isn't broken either but I'd need verification on it.

[Krausus]

Nobody really denied that gear right now has little to no effect and I see no problem with people wearing whatever in groups atm, cause it won't do much anyway.

But I'm not talking about hypotheical situations, I'm talking about basic behaviour of people playing this game. There is a chance that those people will actually change from "fashionable" to "useful" gear once stats do matter, but chance also is, they still go with fashion and give a fuck about the rest of the group. And those are the ones I'm talking about. They have the possibility of gearing up(and again, I'm not talking about HQ+3 best of the best) but they just don't WANT to and even the neccessity of working together with other players(let it be leves, NMs, dungeons whatever) doesn't let them even think about doing something that would cross with their sense of style. That's the most selfish crap you could do. You rely on other people to do well, while you are handicapping yourself on purpose. I don't want such players either in my group and yes not even on the server. I don't want racism and terror on the world too, it won't happen, so will it not in the game as well, but I can still "dream" of perfect conditions I guess. Discussions like these are actually meant to make those players think and maybe think about what they are doing affects other players. If you want to be fashionable and be glamorous in your gear do so, but once its effecting other people, go with what the game is supposingly giving you to not handicap yourself. You can be all fashion and style afterwards again when you're on your own.

And we do know that stats and their effect will change in the upcoming patches, so very soon it's not hypothetical anymore(assuming SE manages to get difficult or challenging fights into the game)

then just dont play with them, chances are you will only be playing with like minded individuals anyways so they should have no effect on you.

[TirionCrey]

then just dont play with them, chances are you will only be playing with like minded individuals anyways so they should have no effect on you.

Whenever I can, I'll not play with them, but I'm a hopeless do-gooder...so this will never change.

[Invz]

Something I don't really understand is the growing desire people have to looks "fashionable" rather than have better gear. It's pretty shocking how many people just tell me "I'm wearing this because it looks better" even though they are well aware of gear being better for them that doesn't look so stellar >.<. Stuff like this can really make a party suffer and it's quite selfish so I ask why? Why is this allowed? Anyone else relate?

please... take your elitism back to FFXI. gear means shit here.. I know ppl that wont wear a subligar on their male character cause it looks like tightie-wighties even though that subligar has maybe one more DEX than the pants. Your telling me that that one DEX is going to make or break a party?? The parties you're starting must suck.

[Ventus]

*sigh* read all posts before making a ragefest please. You've completely missed the point and instead decided to toss the word "elitism" around like it's a toy.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

*sigh* read all posts before making a ragefest please. You've completely missed the point and instead decided to toss the word "elitism" around like it's a toy.

Cuz ummm its true.

Honestly those guys and gals. I never seen or had gear make or break a party. It was the actuall skill. Stats on gear never meant anything in any mmo I played it gave just a possible 5% increase Which isn't truely needed. Here is the thing you guys like Crey etc use the term job in a literal sence, please don't. Its a video game stop being so Type A over other people. I played ffxi in the some of the best and worst gear and in the same set up as everyone else. I honestly saw no difference in my "job doing". People can ware the best gear and be level 50 or 100 in every class in mmo and still suck. Its all in attitude. Try to "solo in a party" and you will die because your not being a team player. Instead of kicking the "gimpy geared person" change up your routine maybe back off a bit.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

All in all work for your party instead of making your party work for you. Or just gracefully leave. The only stats that matter is attack for weapons and defence for armor. Those + stats do not amount to much and only suppliment your base stats. You also should consider that gear in any mmo with a player created economy or relies heafty on a AH like thing such as market wards gear may be hard to come by on occassion. I've always had issues getting gear in ffxi either too $$$$$ or none were up.

( which is why i laugh at the AH bs debate AH are no better or wost then what we have )