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  1. #1
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    dark494's Avatar
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    D'momo Pascal
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 90

    Are melee jobs as hated on every other server?

    Every day I can be sure that when I log on and look at the party finder, I will see dozens of parties looking to do end-game content, like ex primals and coil, that restrict all the dps slots to *RANGED* dps only! Is this how it works now? Melee jobs are just outcasts of society and shunned from content just because they can? Is it because there are a bunch of people running around permeating the notion that all melee suck and die to every aoe and ability?

    Please tell me I'm wrong, that other servers don't look so unfavorably on melee classes, because this is so depressing to see I question why we even have melee jobs in the first place. Everything has been proven to be clear-able without melee, so is there any point to even playing one?
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    mythicrose's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Mythic Rose
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Only time I've seen "no melee" on Cactuar has been for Garuda extreme mode. I've seen a few Titan extreme party finders not wanting black mages as well.
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    axemtitanium's Avatar
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    Titania Basilikos
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    A good monk will out-dps a good blm or smn every single time. I always take a melee for Titan X and Ifrit X. The problem is not the good monks, but the bad monks who don't know their rotation, don't know how to dodge, and don't know how to maintain uptime giving the best dps class a bad name.
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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Can't ssay about my server, but as a healer I don't like melee dps
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    Swishytail's Avatar
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    Swishytail Exaflare
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    Malboro
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by axemtitanium View Post
    A good monk will out-dps a good blm or smn every single time.
    ^ This pretty much. It's just people wanting to be lazy and cheese all the content with all ranged.

    Show some love, people!
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    Adahna Serafi
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    Excalibur
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    Blacksmith Lv 80
    I love playing with some melee in the party (as a healer at that) and there are toooooooons of them on Excalibur. I actually have a really good Mnk in my coil static and we love his DPS. We always make him go Mnk.

    EDIT:
    Quote Originally Posted by Billzey View Post
    Saying that a MNK will out-dps X job every single time is incredibly ignorant. There are many fights that favor ranged dps over melee, not to mention that people seem to overestimate MNK dps to begin with.

    Essentially, there is no fight that 'requires' melee dps, so why use it? Sure you can use melee dps in coil groups that don't suck, but in PUGs, you might as well use all ranged to lessen the chance of failure.
    I started to agree with you with the bit about Mnk out DPSing other classes as some fights even Drg can out DPS Mnk in single target and it's very situational what class can out DPS what but you completely lost me on the second half of your post. Sure no fight *requires* melee but it makes a LOT of them easier.


    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    Most melees can't seem to dodge from my experience doing Garuda Ex. Good ones are rare so I've become anti-melee lately.
    I actually run into more bad ranged than bad melee. Maybe I'm just lucky (unlucky?) with that but I find that they tend to pick up mechanics slower and get tunnel vision easier due to having it "easy".
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    Last edited by AmyNeudaiz; 02-01-2014 at 07:35 AM.

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    Billzey's Avatar
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    Sakura Ephemera
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Saying that a MNK will out-dps X job every single time is incredibly ignorant. There are many fights that favor ranged dps over melee, not to mention that people seem to overestimate MNK dps to begin with.

    Essentially, there is no fight that 'requires' melee dps, so why use it? Sure you can use melee dps in coil groups that don't suck, but in PUGs, you might as well use all ranged to lessen the chance of failure.
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    Buster Posey
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Most melees can't seem to dodge from my experience doing Garuda Ex. Good ones are rare so I've become anti-melee lately.
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    Taran Nos
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    good melee >/= good ranged > bad ranged >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad melee
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    Gulvak Garamonde
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    Coeurl
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    The single target limit burst at least might be worth having. I think the real issue is that designing for ranged lets them do really cool and difficult looking encounters with a lot of stuff players can just ignore since they're ranged. People always take the path of least resistance. As long as bards have Mana Song and BLM have that 10% elemental damage debuff(or whatever) you'll see them favored.

    Either they can give melee something better than their LB (or buff it ... kind of dumb) or just actually make ranged deal with more mechanics rather than being able to go full turret mode.
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