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  1. #11
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    IndigoHawk's Avatar
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    Yslera Ravshana
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    There's no reason to call out the person who voted to abandon so that that person can be singled out and abused if others don't agree with them.
    Instead people shouldn't be able to vote abandon more than once per dungeon. If the party doesn't agree to abandon, then the person can either leave or suck it up and keep playing.
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  2. #12
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    Buster Posey
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    Sometimes the things that are wrong can't be fixed especially in Garuda Ext and especially not with just an hour limit. I.E if your tank doesn't know the fight well it's pretty much over from my experience.
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    Last edited by Doo; 01-30-2014 at 02:27 AM.

  3. #13
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    Yurika Huin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    Sometimes the things that are wrong can't be fixed especially in Garuda Ext and especially not with just an hour limit. I.E if your tank doesn't know the fight well it's pretty much over from my experience.
    If you don't tell the tank what he's doing wrong, then nobody will ever know the fight. In theory, everyone seemed like they were doing everything correctly and nobody really knew what went wrong. Instead of trying to figure out what went wrong vote abandon. So now nobody learned anything and they will continue to repeat this in their next groups.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
    If you don't tell the tank what he's doing wrong, then nobody will ever know the fight. In theory, everyone seemed like they were doing everything correctly and nobody really knew what went wrong. Instead of trying to figure out what went wrong vote abandon. So now nobody learned anything and they will continue to repeat this in their next groups.
    Oh I do tell but most of the time it feels like wasted effort. Most can't seem to understand what I'm saying even though it's simple instructions and they take it the wrong way. Makes you feel like you're calling them out and they get mad rather than being thankful. Rarely you meet players that are willing and able to learn in df. There's really nothing you can do for them if the skill level is not there.
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    Last edited by Doo; 01-30-2014 at 02:45 AM.

  5. #15
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    Cally Evergrey
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by IndigoHawk View Post
    There's no reason to call out the person who voted to abandon so that that person can be singled out and abused if others don't agree with them.
    Instead people shouldn't be able to vote abandon more than once per dungeon. If the party doesn't agree to abandon, then the person can either leave or suck it up and keep playing.
    I agree with not naming, it would just lead to harassment.

    Disagree with the once per dungeon. I was in a Titan HM the other day, and after three wipes just past heart, someone tried abandon, and it failed. A couple more wipes though at the exact same moment, and another came up and passed. The first time most felt we could possibly do it, but after more wipes it became clear it wasn't going to happen. Why force us to continue, or someone to drop, just because of the more rare abuse of it?
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow View Post
    I think the better option is if you vote to abandon and it doesn't go threw you get ejected from the group. No rejoin timer.
    New Tank way to get kicked without getting a timer, that is what would happen. Tank wants to leave, just vote abandon, either way, he wins. :P
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  7. #17
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Midgardsormr
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    I like the idea of not being able to Vote Abandon until after the first 30 minutes have passed. That forces you to actually go out and do whatever instance you are in, at least to start it. Also, if everyone in the group would have preferred to abandon it at the start (hiya Pharos Sirius) it enforces that 30 minute dropout timer before they can even abandon.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitzero View Post
    New Tank way to get kicked without getting a timer, that is what would happen. Tank wants to leave, just vote abandon, either way, he wins. :P
    I updated with 15 min lock out.

    I am a PLD and my wife is a Warrior so stop blaming it on tanks. I see every type of job jump out of CT after the item they are after doesn't drop.
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    Last edited by CrystalRainbow; 01-30-2014 at 03:07 AM.

  9. #19
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    Ryios Locke
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    Vote abandon, imo, should have a 20 minute cooldown before use.
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  10. #20
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    Alhandra Starbreeze
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    Midgardsormr
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    meh, i dont really agree with OP. u cant force someone to group with you, if they are ready to leave they are ready to leave. if its after 1 wipe or after many it doesnt matter. telling you who initiates will just give ammo to trolls and griefers. thb ive abandoned after one wipe before, its pretty easy to tell if a group just isnt gonna work in the first few minutes
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