Why can't "Original Coil" and "Nerfed Coil" coexist?

[SarcasmMisser]

The encounter itself has been nerfed, you aren't just given a buff lol.

Why are you talking in present tense? Talk about jumping the gun.

[Tupsi]

Maybe we should wait for 2.2 before we jump the gun? The Echo buff is the only change mentioned that can be backed up with quotes or otherwise tangible evidence.

Unless you recall precedence where they said they retune encounters in order for it to be "DF friendly" as well as when new content comes out that prior content will be toned down (as seen with AK, WP, Chimera, Thornmarch (though this was a random nerf unneeded) and soon coming Pharos Sirius.) So the "evidence" does exist, if it was simply an 'echo buff you can click off' then I don't think SE understands the concept of "nerfing content", but they have already done so. Removing the weekly lockout on coil is also a big indicator that it's the encounter itself they're changing more so than just giving us additional HP/MP and a slight defense boost as that doesn't really touch the content.

Why are you talking in present tense? Talk about jumping the gun.

It's the exact same when they delayed Labyrinth of the Ancients/Crystal Tower and said they're easing the difficulty, I'm pretty damn sure we weren't given "just a buff" in their "tone down."

[SarcasmMisser]

X happened therefore Y has to happen and I am going to talk like its gospel

[Tupsi]

X happened therefore Y has to happen and I am going to talk like its gospel

They already stated toning down content when new progressive content comes out was going to happen and it's not just giving us a buff unless my client was glitched and I don't see the 'echo buff' in AK, WP, LoTA, Thornmarch and when I'm fighting Chimera (precedence)? So what you're saying is, for coil they'll suddenly switch to giving us a buff we can click off but not do it prior with the other content nerfs?

[Spellbinder]

They already stated toning down content when new progressive content comes out was going to happen and it's not just giving us a buff unless my client was glitched and I don't see the 'echo buff' in AK, WP, LoTA, Thornmarch and when I'm fighting Chimera (precedence)? So what you're saying is, for coil they'll suddenly switch to giving us a buff we can click off but not do it prior with the other content nerfs?

Notice how in those instances they explicitly stated in prior announcements / patch notes that they were reducing the difficulty of those dungeons and trials. The only explicit mention of easing difficulty for the binding coil I can think of is a Japanese interview I read where he mentioned the Echo buff.

It's the exact same when they delayed Labyrinth of the Ancients/Crystal Tower and said they're easing the difficulty

Again, they explicitly stated that the Labyrinth of the ancients was too difficult, and the entire raid had to be readjusted before it could be released.

[Zfz]

for coil they'll suddenly switch to giving us a buff we can click off but not do it prior with the other content nerfs?

If I remember correctly, the buff part is exactly what Yoshi-P said in the previous live letter. Everything he said about BC being easier was tied to the buff. And "eventually", he said, you could stand in lasers and stuff and it would be fine.

The perceived nerf will take stages and unless you think they go jiggle and wiggle the parameters of each fight every one or two weeks to achieve that, it's only reasonable to assume that everything takes place via the buff, which is one simple change to cover everything.

[SarcasmMisser]

They already stated toning down content when new progressive content comes out was going to happen and it's not just giving us a buff unless my client was glitched and I don't see the 'echo buff' in AK, WP, LoTA, Thornmarch and when I'm fighting Chimera (precedence)? So what you're saying is, for coil they'll suddenly switch to giving us a buff we can click off but not do it prior with the other content nerfs?

I'm saying this is all speculation based on precedence, which you just confirmed. Yoshida disclaimed that they were still thinking about how to go about it and floated the idea of an echo buff, so you aren't sure either.

[Felis]

If I remember correctly, the buff part is exactly what Yoshi-P said in the previous live letter. Everything he said about BC being easier was tied to the buff. And "eventually", he said, you could stand in lasers and stuff and it would be fine.

The buff and gear with higher ilevel, to be exactly

[Kroyipi]

Greetings,

We understand that you have different concerns regarding the game content and we are sorry to hear that you are unsatisfied with the current way that FINAL FANTASY XIV is being developed.

Although there are a few users that offered constructive feedback within this thread, I see myself forced to close it due to the fact that you have already opened another thread based on the same topic.

We always welcome constructive criticism and we always encourage our users to offer feedback. Feel free to continue doing it on the thread you previously created if you wish to share any informations that would help FINAL FANTASY XIV to become a better game.

- GM Kroyipi