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    Worm's Avatar
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    Dec 2013
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    Ul'dah
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    Gulvak Garamonde
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by abzoluut View Post
    Your case is different, but the majority just don't have social/communication skills, know their job or care to actually learn the fight. Yet they complain about the difficulty.

    If people fail to see how Coil 1-4 (5 could be adjusted maybe) is really easy with i80+ gear, it's not worth the discussion.
    I'm glad we found common ground. I agree that this might be overkill however I think there are downsides to both extremes of overnerfing and tiered progression where new players need to be run through turns 1-5 before they can be worthwhile on turns 6-9. Though I don't know how many people actually were complaining about Coil's difficulty, maybe they just have little confidence in duty finder? I'm not sure.

    But basically yes I agree that raid content should be a way to incentive the guild system, however that's not ultimately being undermined. People still are going to need guilds to see turns 6 through 9. This is actually why I dislike any mention of a two difficulty system because they can just start all content with an easy mode(like WoW did) and it just really kills the applicant pool of raiders. Though the nerfs to AK WP and Moogle weren't huge, maybe they won't be huge for coil either.

    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    I'll be happy if they do that echo buff they mentioned at some point. Die too many times and you get the buff but even after that you can turn it off. I think that would be perfect. Don't really like the idea of lowering the enemies or mechanics etc. I can live with it but it's not preferable.
    Honestly this would be a really nice way to handle it, since it sort of encourages better play. Throw in some achievement for doing the raid with 0 stacks of Echo and everyone is basically happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by NRhodes View Post
    No, I'm not. You just jumped straight to negative conclusions when the term "handicapped" was mentioned.
    This is actually pretty funny. You honestly read that post and thought they were happy about nerfs because it would finally allow the 5 year olds, drug addicts, and handicapped players to beat content? You see no issue likening a full grown adult with a physical disability to a small child or serious substance abuse problem? You're so incredibly off the deep end here. I urge you to seek out family and friends and quote that post to them so you can see plainly just how amazingly and absolutely wrong you are.
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    Last edited by Worm; 01-27-2014 at 12:05 PM.