Patch 2.2: Let's Copy the Worst Practice of MMOs From the Last 10 Years...

[Ri_ri]

It's pretty silly to get attached to your gear and think you'll be better than anyone simply because you started playing earlier.

I, for one, am happy new players won't get gated by stupid lockouts and can see new content and play with everyone else without depending on luck.

[Greywizaqrd]

I thought people wanted progression?

There is such a thing as sideways progression. Take a look at FFXI. It progressed for many years with capped level and sideways content. I'm not saying it can last forever, but seven months is way too early to start shitting all over the hard work players put into gearing up. Fact is, the game design and mechanics are too simple so they have no choice but to increase X-stat to create any kind of progression. Doing that means iLVL increases and shitting all over previous content. There is no grand story or real raid content to keep progression sideways. SE is out for a quick buck with this game.

Nothing they have implemented or are going to implement has any real longevity. It is a real turnoff to some of the community. Why bother trying when all of the rewards you work hard for are discarded in a few months?

[SanjuroXI]

It took me 3 years to get enough currency to get an Excalibur in FFXI. Never want to go back to that kind of content again. I welcome faster paced progression. Huge grinds like pre nerf dynamis relics felt like I was wasting so much time.

I'm by no means saying I want relic status quest in the game but nerfing already stupid easy fights is dumb. Removing the lockout and being able to farm 90 in a week or less is also dumb. Guarantee people will burn through the new content with a quickness to since he said 6-9 is on par difficulty wise as 1-5 is which isn't difficult at all.

[Destinova]

Actually they will nerf it but all the new gear and your level will probably be synced down to the content level, ero still keeping some of the challenege.

[Fendred]

They aren't invalidating old content, new players will still have to progress through it , a lot faster than the trail blazers tho .

And they are adding new content which is harder and new tomes to farm . I want my phat lewt baby!!

Oh and im sorry you wont be special cool person with the i95 weapon when im going to get an i100 weapon the first day of patch . Sorry for you .

No one is saying you will have the same gear forever. They are changing the difficulty of the Binding Coil of Bahamut to be easier so that people can grind it and then go for another set of gear that is better...which will then be nerfed to high hell so you can use that to grind for the next tier of gear... which will then... Do you see the problem yet? You don't get any sense of accomplishment. "Oh I'm sorry that you're losing your sense of accomplishment..." Well that is just BS because the entire purpose of building your character up is so that YOU HAVE A SENSE OF ACCOMPLISHMENT!

Accomplishments and the sense of prestige that comes with it is the MMORPG equivalent to "winning" in other game genres. It is the very goal of the game and the entire point to continuing to play after you've exhausted the main story. They are taking that away from people, thus demolishing the game for them. FFXI DID NOT DO THIS! They stopped at lvl 75 for many years before some guy decided it would be a good idea to try raising the level cap... which destroyed much of the game.

[RoninDarkchild]

Why are you people surprised???? They said this since day one!!!! New content will be hard, and they will nerf OLD content as the move on.... Why should i care if old content is easier for other players while I have moved on???? People are always so concerned about what someone ELSE is doing..

[Zumi]

I'm by no means saying I want relic status quest in the game but nerfing already stupid easy fights is dumb. Removing the lockout and being able to farm 90 in a week or less is also dumb. Guarantee people will burn through the new content with a quickness to since he said 6-9 is on par difficulty wise as 1-5 is which isn't difficult at all.

He said it was on par with 1-5 when it was first released not now when everyone runs it with ilvl 90. It took several months before coil 1-5 became easy enough to finish in an hour. That was because people were geared in all ilvl 90 making it a breeze to run through. Since ilvl 90 will be the entry point for turn 6-9 its going to be really hard at first like 1-5 was when it first came out. We most likly won't be seeing people have a easy run through 6-9 until they are decked out in new gear which will take 2-3 months.

[Purrfectstorm]

They are no longer the status symbols they were before. Now you have to go do the next big boss to get new status symbols that will then be invalidated with another patch...

Hmm, repeated reference to "status symbols." Interesting. I don't know if it was your intent but this really makes it seem like you just want to have items that other players don't have, so you can lord it over them.

If that's the case, you still can. New Coil Turns.

As for gear being obsoleted, it's not that hard to get now and this is kind of expected in MMOs. I personally would expect that the harder gear is to obtain the longer it would remain viable. SE said from the get go that they would make content easier over time as new content comes out anyway meaning that the players who are on the cutting edge, beating the hardest content, will still have the best gear first, thus preserving their status symbols (which is not my personal reason for wanting the best gear but to each their own).

I'm glad there is new gear to grind for but I hope they add some horizontal gear sets and not all vertical progression. Bigger numbers are great and all but it's far more interesting to have gear that does something different. I want to see more depth and customization. I suppose they might do that as early as 2.2 (I doubt it though, they also might not do it at all, ever). If they do, then the Turn 1-5 gear might not be obsolete, who knows.

[Lumiin]

Isn't this what mmos do? The only difference here is that is was done faster but everyone knew it was going to be an update every 3 months ._.
If you don't want to deal with new patches and new content wait until the game is old.

[MaethusXion]

If you're THAT attached to your gear, they ARE making the Glamour(Vanity) System available!