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    Kenji1134's Avatar
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    Aleksandr Deicide
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 70
    2x Global Mod: Shield Oath and Defiance
    3x: Savage Blade, Skull Sunder, Shield Lob, Tomahawk
    5x: Rage of Halone, Butcher's Block, Overpower

    Flash has a hate potency of 495.

    Not sure about the hate mod on Steel Cyclone.

    Using a self buff generates a flat 70 hate on everything, modified by the global mods.
    So Stoneskin for example, under Shield Oath, you would get 140 hate when you cast it, but no extra hate when you get hit and are protected by it.

    Abilities that do damage, heal, or generate raw hate, AND apply a buff/debuff do NOT generate an additional 70/140 hate for the buff/debuff portion. So a buff with no damage/healing/threat is worth 70/140, while RoH, Flash, Maim, Storm's Path, and Storm's Eye, all generate damage/aggro first, and no +70/140 later.
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    Last edited by Kenji1134; 01-25-2014 at 01:33 AM.

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    Fue's Avatar
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    Washed Up
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    2x Global Mod: Shield Oath and Defiance
    3x: Savage Blade, Skull Sunder, Shield Lob, Tomahawk
    5x: Rage of Halone, Butcher's Block, Overpower

    Flash has a hate potency of 495.

    Not sure about the hate mod on Steel Cyclone.

    Using a self buff generates a flat 70 hate on everything, modified by the global mods.
    So Stoneskin for example, under Shield Oath, you would get 140 hate when you cast it, but no extra hate when you get hit and are protected by it.

    Abilities that do damage, heal, or generate raw hate, AND apply a buff/debuff do NOT generate an additional 70/140 hate for the buff/debuff portion. So a buff with no damage/healing/threat is worth 70/140, while RoH, Flash, Maim, Storm's Path, and Storm's Eye, all generate damage/aggro first, and no +70/140 later.
    Afaik Overpower has 3x modifier so does Steel Cyclone if parsers are to be trusted.

    Also Flash scales with stats so its not static 495 potency.
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    Last edited by Fue; 01-25-2014 at 05:31 AM.

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    Ferth's Avatar
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    Ferth Fontaine
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Fue View Post
    Afaik Overpower has 3x modifier so does Steel Cyclone if parsers are to be trusted.

    Also Flash scales with stats so its not static 495 potency.
    Potency doesnt scale, it is the base value for a given skill. Stats can still alter how much enmity you get but the potency would always be the same.

    Much like the potency for Rage of Halone will always be 260 but the damage you do will change based on your weapon damage and other stats.
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    Last edited by Ferth; 01-25-2014 at 07:49 AM.

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    Vactus Serakai
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 50
    They may have been thinking attack power instead of Potency, but you're very correct.
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