Whats the trick to Haukke Manor (HM)?

[Akirakogami]

The few times I've seen the Steward spawn, I've never seen it cause a wipe. <.<;

massive aoe damage. healer/tank getting swarmed and seperated by ice shit

[Classikal]

I'd rather try not to let it spawn because the AoE can take people by surprise. Every time I've seen it spawn, the party usually wipes.

Oh yes, and you can Stun/Silence the first boss when it's casting Void Blizzard III. You can also Stun/Silence the last boss up until the first Blood Rain.

As I said, I've only seen it spawn like the 1st 2-3 times I did the zone, never caused a wipe, but I haven't seen it spawn ever after that, probably a good 20-30+ runs I've done over the course since I use that zone for capping weekly mythology.

I know you can Silence Imp/Heliocarnassus as well. As a BRD though during the 1st phase I tend to save my Blunt Arrow timer for Dark Mist.

As a side note the maidservants through out the run can also rarely use Dark Mist as well, though most of the time they just spam Demonize.

[Classikal]

South West maiden from the entrance is the one to hit first. Usually take her down until 3/4 and then have one dps peel onto the other.

If you're talking about standing in the doorway and facing Heliocarnassus, your SW maidservant is on the left side? Than that would be wrong. Every time the tank has tanked her where she spawns, it's always been the maidservant on the right side that gets consumed first. I've done that fight a good 20+ times and it's always been that one.

And why would you stop at 25%? You should have no problems taking everything down to 0% even with average DPS except Amandine. She's the only one that can be tricky sometimes.

[juniglee]

As I said, I've only seen it spawn like the 1st 2-3 times I did the zone, never caused a wipe, but I haven't seen it spawn ever after that, probably a good 20-30+ runs I've done over the course since I use that zone for capping weekly mythology.

I know you can Silence Imp/Heliocarnassus as well. As a BRD though during the 1st phase I tend to save my Blunt Arrow timer for Dark Mist.

As a side note the maidservants through out the run can also rarely use Dark Mist as well, though most of the time they just spam Demonize.

Nice to know that you know. None of the Bards I see in pugs silence Imp/Hali ever lol. The few times I went in as a healer, if the big skeleton spawned, not only would most of the adds be on me, but one AoE + one swing from the big skeleton, and I'm usually dead. Throw in an unlucky Blizzard/Slow or blizzard pool from the imp for good measure.

I think they will attempt Demonize first. If that goes through, then their next casting skill would be Dark Mist. I can't confirm this as I've never seen it happen myself, but I believe it is highly possible.

[Classikal]

Nice to know that you know. None of the Bards I see in pugs silence Imp/Hali ever lol. The few times I went in as a healer, if the big skeleton spawned, not only would most of the adds be on me, but one AoE + one swing from the big skeleton, and I'm usually dead. Throw in an unlucky Blizzard/Slow or blizzard pool from the imp for good measure.

I think they will attempt Demonize first. If that goes through, then their next casting skill would be Dark Mist. I can't confirm this as I've never seen it happen myself, but I believe it is highly possible.

Naw, the maidservants can do either first. The PT's I've been in usually kill the maidservant as the first in the pack, so they never get more than one spell off before they are dead. It's just usually Demonize.

[kukurumei]

As I said, I've only seen it spawn like the 1st 2-3 times I did the zone, never caused a wipe, but I haven't seen it spawn ever after that, probably a good 20-30+ runs I've done over the course since I use that zone for capping weekly mythology.

I know you can Silence Imp/Heliocarnassus as well. As a BRD though during the 1st phase I tend to save my Blunt Arrow timer for Dark Mist.

As a side note the maidservants through out the run can also rarely use Dark Mist as well, though most of the time they just spam Demonize.

Don't bother with blunt arrow. Once she eats the first add, she will become immune to stun/silence. It's better to save silence/ stun for each add, as the 1st 20-30% really she's a pansy anyway.

Once the add spawn though, blunt should be shot to prevent stoneskin (or a stun but sometimes a pt isn't as coordinated). With proper chain stun/silence and adds will go down quickly, and the boss can be healed through as she gets progressively more powerful (II on first boss III on 2nd boss IV on 3rd boss)

[Classikal]

I know you can't silence Heliocarnassus past the 1st phase, but using it on Dark Mist, still helps tank/melee so they don't have to stop DPS midway, even if only for phase 1. The only add that would interfere with silencing is the Ariman, which is the easiest add to take down, you can get it to zero w/o even using buffs and save buffs for maidservants/Amandine. Why silence Stoneskin when it can be taken to zero with or without it?

If you have trouble taking the Ariman to zero, you are going to be struggling pretty bad on maidservants and Amandine.

[kukurumei]

I know you can't silence Heliocarnassus past the 1st phase, but using it on Dark Mist, still helps tank/melee so they don't have to stop DPS midway, even if only for phase 1. The only add that would interfere with silencing is the Ariman, which is the easiest add to take down, you can get it to zero w/o even using buffs and save buffs for maidservants/Amandine. Why silence Stoneskin when it can be taken to zero with or without it?

If you have trouble taking the Ariman to zero, you are going to be struggling pretty bad on maidservants and Amandine.

Why wouldn't you want to take out stoneskin before he can cast it?

The point of the fight was never about her, it's about adds. She is coded that it's based on HP, so there's no point to rush between adds.

[Hekmatyar-Koko]

If you're talking about standing in the doorway and facing Heliocarnassus, your SW maidservant is on the left side? Than that would be wrong. Every time the tank has tanked her where she spawns, it's always been the maidservant on the right side that gets consumed first. I've done that fight a good 20+ times and it's always been that one.

Yes, I am referring to the maidservant to the left of the doorway. Not once has the maidservant to the right ever been consumed first in any run of mine, every time someone insists it's the one on the right (SE) we wipe. Every. Single. Time. I refuse to tank at all unless everyone agrees to focus on the one I mark - regardless of what they've 'heard' or 'seen'. I have also never tanked one where it spawns, I just take Halicarnassus to the centre and Provoke the the maidservant on the right (SE) whilst marking the left (SW).

And why would you stop at 25%? You should have no problems taking everything down to 0% even with average DPS except Amandine. She's the only one that can be tricky sometimes.

I've had many a group with dps that seem to have barely scraped by the iLvl requirement. Very rarely can they get the second maidservant to close to 0% in time unless one swaps targets. Also, when I have a group with low dps I often tell them now to let me LB when she consumes Amandine, with this I haven't wiped yet. Often the dps miss-time it or it just doesn't hit hard enough.

I think they will attempt Demonize first. If that goes through, then their next casting skill would be Dark Mist. I can't confirm this as I've never seen it happen myself, but I believe it is highly possible.

From what I've seen they will always attempt to cast Demonize multiple times until either they are successful, or a stun comes in just late enough that the Demonize animation seems to begin, but nothing happens.


By the way, all of my observations are from me completing the instance as a Healer, Tank, and both Melee & Ranged DPS. The only thing that after all of my runs I still don't have an idea of is when she will cast Fatal Allure on the tank. It's only happened a few times, and yet I am sure I've seen a healthy tank get consumed as much as I have those with low health.

[Worm]

Maybe she just eats the maid servant with lower health first! Derp. Also why LB for the attack from consuming the 3rd mob when you can just ... LB the 3rd mob, never had a problem doing that. A level 2 LB really wrecks her, and the timing isn't tough either do it when she spawns or DPS her until she (the mob that is) casts the AOE Stun.