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  1. #11
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    Xenor's Avatar
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    Xenor Vernix
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I have the same problem, 190-200ish depending on the run.

    I always stack because I assume a party will whine if I'm not stacking. Usually I'll dodge the plume, cast my next spell and start running once I pass the 80% or whatever cast bar where you can run and still have it go off. But I end up with some interrupts when dodging the landslide. I need to use Manawall more I guess. Also need to start holding RS for the egis rather than using in heart phase.

    I've been wondering whether using Scathe when dodging would be helpful, but right now my biggest DPS issue seems to be the fact I stack too much.

    Some parties can be pretty harsh, had one complaining the two LNCs were doing more DPS than me yesterday, and I couldn't even join a party in one of my linkshells unless I could do 250 DPS, which is crazy. I've always put dodging before damage on Titan but now I will take more risks to squeeze out that extra DPS.
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  2. #12
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    NightWrath's Avatar
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    Night Wrath
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    I will try this phaser, because with ffxiv - app never seen anyone pass 230 dps.

  3. #13
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    Sparda Amon
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Man it is becoming scary to talk about parsers at the moment. I fear for permanent banned for talking too much about it on the forums.

    In any case, the parse posted by Seobit is as accurate as it can be. Very impressive numbers indeed. I don't know how much dps I'm doing on Titan ex nor what kind of total damage to expect using ACT as I have only parsed using a very inferior option IMHO. However, OP, you need to forget about parsers and focus on Titan fight itself.

    IMO, BLM naturally do higher numbers the more they know the fight. For Titan EX, you need to be able to know what is going to happen in the next 3 seconds at any moment in the fight. Knowing that and moving during your off time is the very key. If you are always at the correct position and rarely cancel your cast to dodge you will naturally reach very impressive numbers. There is also the two adds, you should be the one demolishing them with a nice buffed out double flares, easy 5k+ damage with double crits and foe.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 01-21-2014 at 11:36 PM.

  4. #14
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    Volux's Avatar
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    Volux Er'drexus
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 44
    Not to make you feel worse but Arc/Brd DPS should actually be closer to 240-270 if you're playing it right....210 is garbage. Sum DPS so high because their egi never has to move...
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  5. #15
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    Estelle Arwen
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Bard 210? Im not even close to full 90 and put out almost 300dps in titan extreme
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  6. #16
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    Aleksandr Deicide
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Ive been wondering, about how much non-moving uptime does BLM have on Titan Extreme? And how would you go about testing it?

    For a BLM, moving = almost no dps. You have your Thunder ticking for 35 potency every 3 sec, and you can Scathe for 100 potency every ~2.35 sec, but that will cut a fire out of your fire cycle due to the mana cost, unless you happen to be in UI3... Even then, Thunder ticks + Scathe = 35/3+120(average)/2.35 = ~63 pps at most, versus ~110 pps when you are standing still. Not counting the broken casts and the lost fires due to insufficient mana.

    In terms of overall dps, I am usually around 190 dps by the time we get to Superbombs. (After jumps, dodging, etc) On a dummy I can do about 280 dps, I85 gear, I90 weapon.
    So based on those numbers, I have roughly 68% uptime on Titan... Honestly at that point I might as well be spamming Scathe and Thunder 1 for ~63% of my max pps, but with nearly 100% uptime.
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    Last edited by Kenji1134; 01-22-2014 at 02:14 AM.

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    Neon Sea
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    It's also important to look at burst phase damage. Sure Smn can get 300 sustained (which is amazing btw) but when I look at burst phases(heart/gaolers) the Blm and Brd can get some crazy numbers, not to mention the + 30% a bard can add to mage dps and +15% basically half of the entire fight. For instance, my bard which I normally get 220-250 dps on Titan can get up to 380+ for heart and Blm numbers in the gaolers phase can be staggering.
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    Last edited by NeonC; 01-22-2014 at 03:00 AM.

  8. #18
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Sometimes I don't get why people keep talking about parsers and DPS numbers so much.

    What I really care is getting the job done.

    I wouldn't really bother with the exact numbers as long as the monster is killed, no one dies without reason and the battle doesn't drag. 200DPS or 2,000DPS, as long as Titan EX is down before/at 2nd superbombs it's all good.

    Most failures are from people dying. Always remember the 1st rule of DPS: 0HP = 0DPS. Survive first.
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  9. #19
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    Davion Chai
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Sometimes I don't get why people keep talking about parsers and DPS numbers so much.

    What I really care is getting the job done.

    I wouldn't really bother with the exact numbers as long as the monster is killed, no one dies without reason and the battle doesn't drag. 200DPS or 2,000DPS, as long as Titan EX is down before/at 2nd superbombs it's all good.

    Most failures are from people dying. Always remember the 1st rule of DPS: 0HP = 0DPS. Survive first.
    you're the better blackmage
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  10. #20
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    Xenor Vernix
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    Ragnarok
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    I was trying to Flare the gaolers in a group last night and the group complained we were killing them "too fast". Apparently they aren't meant to die fast so we split DPS, some on left and some on right. Needless to say the group didn't win.

    I did achieve around 210 DPS on a couple of runs though so getting better. Scathe seemed useful for certain bits and I was using Manawall.

    DPS has never been a problem in any of my Titan runs, the problem has always been people dying and causing wipes. I've probably put about 12 hours into it since Sunday and I'm starting to get fed up of the crappy groups. That is a huge amount of my free time wasted.
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