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    Hanabira's Avatar
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    Hanabira Asashi
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    Can we please stop with the altruistic notion that 'in progress' is only for rebuilding parties where people left. The only reason SE put it in there is to prevent the outcry that would happen without it.

    if you couldn't add people after the run started, then a lot of runs would just fail with everyone complaining that they couldn't complete the run because of 'x' disconnected/got kicked/fell asleep...
    So what youre saying is, they added "in progress" for rebuilding parties where people left.

    The game is designed to run a dungeon from start to finish, in progress was added because this isn't always the reality and people WILL leave for whatever reason. This feature was used to replace those people, but abused by people trying to skip through dungeons. If this was intended, why doesn't this happen in JP servers? For whatever reason, people in US regions spend so much time and effort trying to figure out ways to NOT play the game.

    Suicide speed runs,
    withdrawl spam,
    T2 enrage,
    any other system circumventing crap is all stuff our region started
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    Last edited by Hanabira; 01-22-2014 at 04:12 AM.

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    Lumiin's Avatar
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    Secare Miura
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanabira View Post
    For whatever reason, people in US regions spend so much time and effort trying to figure out ways to NOT play the game.
    Do you have any data to back this up? Or are you just spouting racist bs?
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    Aleczan's Avatar
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    Aleczan Knighthill
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanabira View Post
    So what youre saying is, they added "in progress" for rebuilding parties where people left.

    The game is designed to run a dungeon from start to finish, in progress was added because this isn't always the reality and people WILL leave for whatever reason. This feature was used to replace those people, but abused by people trying to skip through dungeons. If this was intended, why doesn't this happen in JP servers? For whatever reason, people in US regions spend so much time and effort trying to figure out ways to NOT play the game.

    Suicide speed runs,
    withdrawl spam,
    T2 enrage,
    any other system circumventing crap is all stuff our region started
    It is absolutely an abuse and must be prevented. However, I beg to differ about the Japanese servers. My friends play on Mana data center (Masamune server, to be specific) and they got this EVERYDAY.



    Sometimes it is as bad as 10 withdraws in a row within the time span of 10-20 seconds. Sometimes the waiting person cannot even click the "commence" button before some bastard withdraw and make duty cancel. They have to sit there and camp the commence button, and repeatedly click on it like 10-20 times before a Duty would actually and eventually start without failure.

    It is just sad (and outrageous) that a player would do this and make like 23 other people be aggravated about the duty ready that repeatedly fails.....
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    Last edited by Aleczan; 01-22-2014 at 05:08 AM.

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    Deviant1's Avatar
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    Deviant One
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aleczan View Post
    It is absolutely an abuse and must be prevented
    It is just sad (and outrageous) that a player would do this and make like 23 other people be aggravated about the duty ready that repeatedly fails.....
    it is not an abuse, as it is normally not just one player. what happens is that several players will queue up into a database table. as pt slots open, player 1 gets the popup, hits withdraw, then player 2 gets the popup and hits withdraw, etc etc until it gets to the first player who hits commence. in reality, people should be glad that they are hitting withdraw as it would take a lot longer if they just let it time out.

    What is outrageous is that people who want to start from the beginning believe they have the right to have people who want to skip a boss or two be forced into a fresh run.

    the ability to queue for 'in progress' only would prevent all the excess popups and make it so the fresh parties can start quicker.
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    Grailer's Avatar
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    Silver Healer
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    What is outrageous is that people who want to start from the beginning believe they have the right to have people who want to skip a boss or two be forced into a fresh run.
    Considering in progress was designed to help the people who are in progress complete the dungeon I feel that it is outrageous that people think in progress is for them so they can skip part of the dungeon.
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