Here, here, everyone! Logic speaks!
The content leveling up is extraordinarily easy. Titan is the first "real" challenge. It doesn't allow you to hold others' hands and carry them through it. You're being held accountable for your own situational awareness.
If you cannot abide by this, then this is the wrong game for you! It's not some brand-new, earth-shattering (see what I did there) concept! Titan-like fights are in every game. Some games challenge you early on, others in the middle, and oftentimes at end-game.
Put your big-girl/boy pants on and learn to play the game. Stand up and try again - and heaven forbid - learn from your mistakes!
Wow. You're totally right! You said it so it must be true. It's okay. I'll believe you even without supporting evidence and just your 5 words you posted. You changed my mind. You should teach debate it seems like you have a real knack at it.
Or, you know, if you're that raw about it, you can just leave. It's not like you have a pre-nup with FFXIV or anything. It'll be rough in the beginning without your stellar personality, but I think we can manage.
Or, you can do what logical people do:
1.) List what you think is wrong in as much detail as possible (providing examples and describing each issue while remaining unbiased and offering facts and data, not complaints)
2.) For every one issue you think needs to be addressed, list 2 solutions or workarounds (including examples)
This is called feedback. Your post is the exact reason why Square doesn't post in threads and doesn't take the forums seriously.
You can't please everyone. If the content is too hard, people complain like you're doing now. If it's too easy, everyone finishes the content and has nothing else to work towards, then they come here and complain about it.
You just have to accept that SE call the shots here, not you. If you don't want to pay for this game there are still plenty of people who do, so please stop with the "I'm paying for this game, so we'll have it my way" routine.
Titan the fight isn't tough. The problem is the groups. If you don't put together or buy a group for it then the DF sticks you with 7 people most of which can't do the fight so you fail.
You can help your FC mates, even if you have to carry them. I'm not on a great connection, nor am I "hardcore", but I managed to clear Titan HM with relative ease after learning the fight (i.e. joined a learners run in PF, my suggestion is to make one on your server to help people learn the fight).
It may be that they don't know the patterns since it's a dance fight like Demon Wall in AK, or it might be lag as you say (or a bit of column A and a bit of column B). Phase 5 of Titan HM can be done with 4 people alive (1T, 1H, 2DPS), assuming they know the patterns (or have very good reaction) and the healer can keep up.
It is upsetting that people can't clear the fight, but it's understandable. The way the fight is designed might be the issue I think, not exactly player skill. It's a very specific pattern with randomness mixed in, it's not hard to mess up on the fight and eat a landslide or plumes; especially with lag.
OR you can use party finder, where players form the party for you, and tend to have higher standards than basic DF (i67) requirements, heh.
Every party I have gotten in for Titan HM die because they have crap internet or can't dodge his attacks which are extremely simple. It's really not SE's job to dumb content down for you because you have crappy internet or can't pay enough attention.
Not really at least in my experience.. Same people just sick of DF then making a PF and still getting owned. I have a running list of Titan attempts from DF and PF. Won't go into full detail but in the first 60 runs only one group took down the heart... Only to wipe to the first tumult. FYI I was still standing. So at least on my server PF is just another DF. Not just Titan either... Wish I had vids of some of the other groups I got in from PF... So much fail on everything from chimera to mog to primals to ct... So much fail
This. This is the problem with Titan. This right here. The fight isn't what makes it hard, it's the people you get stuck with. I just recently got to the point of needing Titan for relic and because my FC isn't quite there I have been busting my ass to get it done alone with DF and party search. It's a nightmare. It's all I have tried to do for the past couple of days with nothing to show for it. I praise the groups I have had for their patients, but some people just don't get it. You get people who are not that well geared. Low dps. People who can't dodge. I mean you see it all once you hit Titan. For me, dodging is really quite easy and I'm more then geared for it. I know it's a tough fight but when you know you are doing fine the entire time and still losing... you start to understand why people say to hell with it and just buy a run.
Last edited by Shikoba; 01-21-2014 at 03:45 PM.
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