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  1. #31
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    Kinseykinz's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgeburner View Post
    Ways Pharos Sirius can go bad:

    * Heal can fail to top people up after Siren puts her to-be-charmed debuff on.
    * Heal can fail to keep up after group-wide Vulnerability Up goes on.
    * Heal can fail to move away from crawling adds.
    * DPS can fail to pick up adds.
    * All can misread Siren's position when she flies off, resulting in needless damage.
    * All can miss Siren going to mid (insta-charm for non-mid players).
    * All can be insufficiently geared, due to low threshold for entry.
    but wait there's more! /silly late night commercial tag off

    *DD's can enrage the boss by overdoing damage/not breaking eggs/breaking too many eggs etc (gonna be honest,I'm a healer I know 'dd's do something with eggs or boss gets angry')
    *Any party member can suck at avoiding the 'stacks debuff' on the First boss with the wolves 3 stacks=you explode/take a lot of damage
    *Lack of Lunatic Voice Stunning. You make the healers role 100% harder by not stunning this move.
    *DD's can be too slow at burning the wolf adds on first boss/tank can be slow to aggro the adds closest to him
    *Party members with lower def/hps who aren't SS'd and who time their basic movement from point a-b between the 1st and 2nd boss wrong, can die from the falling rocks.
    *Even some of the 'basic' mobs hit for a lot of damage...one bad pull and you can wipe like noobs on a simple mob.
    *WHM's are in general, more of a liability in PS than SCHs...and I say this as a WHM main. The way a WHM's skill-set works/the amount of constant dodging+ need for big AoE cures can lead to MP issues/party members being out of cure range or losing the tank when trying to heal a dd. WHM basically needs a bard to make up for the slack...and not all DF parties come with bard. It is possible to do without Ballad, but to do so, requires skillful use of the WHM's entire skillset + party members with solid DPS/Hate Management and who know how and when to gather up to make the most of WHM AoE cures. (SCH has it rough too, but with better MP management and a fairy to assist, the SCH is more mobile...also, SCH's 'pre-healing' style lends itself much more to this dungeon as much of the healing of at least the final boss is 'keeping everyone topped off'...a feat slightly easier to do for a SCH).



    Sad thing is: all this said, it's still a very fun dungeon...but the risks with a DF party don't match the potential rewards...not when there's faster easier ways to earn the same amount of myth and when the gear dropped isn't anything special/trumped again by easier methods (Turns 1-4 in BC are easier if you need some perspective). So unless you queue with friends or are a glutton for punishment this can be a scary place.

    Still, other than me saying 'curse you Dungeon Roulette' and/or Congratulating my fellow party members after the Dungeon Roulette PS clear and then wishing them ' Grats!, May dungeon Roulette never send you here again' ....I always suck up my DF roulette lot when I get sent here and work hard to get a win. (But every time I queue for High Level Roulette I am praying it's NOT PS :P)
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    Last edited by Kinseykinz; 01-18-2014 at 05:26 PM.

  2. #32
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    Nekodar's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Nyaano Nohea
    World
    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants View Post
    Been there 3 times failed 3 times... And you can't blame my heals on it after all I have cleared everything right up to coil turn 4 and garuda ex mode
    I'm a healer too. Haven't done Ultima HM/Primal Extremes/Coil yet... But...
    Been there a few times, won a few, failed a few.
    Yesterday I got a duty roulette there, and other than a screwup on Zu (dps killed too many eggs), no problem.
    Even siren went down on first attempt.
    Explanations were done at each boss prior to running in.

    As long as people listen to instructions and can play their roles properly, it's not very difficult.
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  3. #33
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    Raeletta's Avatar
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    Raeletta Delqit
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    It's hard if you don't pay attention, or over gear it and don't understand that you need to slow down to have an easier time.

    I think it's fine as it is. Drops could be better, but right now it shows a lot of brainless people up. Seen it beat with largely i60-70 people with ease (Although obviously a fair amount of time too), failed a good few times with near enough i90 players.

    Also, first boss is the hardest imo, by miles. It's very very hard to forget your stacks and blow up next to someone squishy. Who usually has just blown up too so everyone dies. D:
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  4. #34
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    CYoung187's Avatar
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    Colman Meridius
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 60
    I would like to do this dungeon, but with stories like this I definitly don't want to unlock it and add it to the duty roulette possibilities.
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  5. #35
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    Imapooonu's Avatar
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    Drain Bead
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    OK, no one said it so:

    "Pharos Sirius is SERIOUS 0.o"


    *couldn't resist
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  6. #36
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    Theodrid's Avatar
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    Theodrid Witherfang
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    First try at this dungeon was with a pug, we got to Siren quickly, but wiped probably 12 times or so before running out of time. Being my first attempt, I figured I was to blame since Siren victory depends on healer a lot. Turns out the biggest issue was the DPS not taking out those crawlers quick enough. Went with some members from my FC for my second run, took out Siren on first try with no issues. Really helps when those crawlers are grabbed right away and taken down. Also, as the healer, have to be mindful of where they spawn and keep away as well.
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  7. #37
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    RickXRolled's Avatar
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    Ryan Norris
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Imapooonu View Post
    OK, no one said it so:

    "Pharos Sirius is SERIOUS 0.o"


    *couldn't resist
    Wow, Siriusly?
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  8. #38
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    KarstenS's Avatar
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Komatose9514 View Post
    and the healer dispells
    Its no classical dispelling. Maybe that is the problem for many? First try I was wondering too, how to get that debuff away. But after I did move my mouse pointer over the debuff symbol and read the text in the tooltip box, everything got clear.
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    Videos mit der Hauptgeschichte und ausgewählten Nebenquestreihen (deutsch): https://www.youtube.com/user/KSVideo100

  9. #39
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    Lukahn Gatea
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Pharos is quite possibly the coolest 4 man dungeon. It can be challenging if you have a low i level healer, but is also very doable with patience and instruction. There should always be at least one 4 man dungeon like this at a time. Not all challenging content should be restricted to Full Parties.
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  10. #40
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    Lukahn Gatea
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    I would like to do this dungeon, but with stories like this I definitly don't want to unlock it and add it to the duty roulette possibilities.
    That's a shame.
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