Pharos Sirius...

[ZodiacSoldier]

Did it first time with 2 FC DPS and DF healer, wasn't bad only wiped once on Final Boss.
Second Time did it with 2 FC DPS and FC healer, wiped alot on final boss cause healer wouldn't top people off.

Got it in Duty Roulette, 2 DPS with full AF gear and Healer in DL, kill First boss after a few wipes, healer left and i followed suit
Got it in Duty Roulette again, BLM with under 3k Health, DRG in Full AF armor and WP weapon, Healer with mostly ilevel 55 gear... left instantly and took the 30 min penalty...

Duty Finder / Roulette sucks for this dungeon, whenever I get it in DR I just take the 30min hit, not worth all the wipes.

[ApolloGenX]

It's because it has the same requirements for stunning capability and management that hydra or Ifrit have... except it's just a small group tome farming instance.

Not worth it. You get people not used to stunning/managing add agro and you wipe. Period. Effort not worth the reward.

[Meshico]

While I agree with almost everything here I don't agree with making Pharos drop i70 gear. How about making i65 instead? That keeps the dungeon progression that's already there going from 50-55-60.

Absolutely. It should have been i65 gear! This is the most difficult of the end game dungeons and it does offer the exact same gear as the other "HM" dungeons. heck they can still do this and have only the new graphics apply to the i65 gear in Pharos.

[Melithea]

Then take the new item level 60 sets (Lord's, Blessed, etc) and put it in Haukke and Copperbell HM along with the AK jewelry,

Just want to note that you can already get the Blessed set in Copperbell HM and the Lord's set in Haukke HM, making Pharos completely not worth doing at all once you've beat it once for the quest.

[KogaDrake]

So SE learned that time based mechanics (all the bosses in AK for example) make a fight way too easy for people who are geared. to counter this they do things HP% based so over geared push out adds too fast and people do not realize the problem and wipe.

Boss 1, too fast dps = stacks from adds keep building till you blow up and wipe
Bird boss, too much dps = no time for stacks to fall off between hatchings = enraged mode = wipe
Last boss, ok this one something different, but not that hard when you understand mechanics and kill order for adds.

Glad SE actually made something that gets harder the more geared you are to give some actual challenges in normal dungeons..


and while the ilv drops are a bit of.. lets be honest myth/coil/CT is all you should care about and it wont replace darklight this early on so not much else you can ask for.

[Ed_N_Ants]

Been there 3 times failed 3 times... And you can't blame my heals on it after all I have cleared everything right up to coil turn 4 and garuda ex mode

[Squa]

just got this group today, on my WHM daily roulette. The tank was sitting at like 4990 HP, no one else has completed it.

It took a while, and we almost ran out of time, but we finished it. It required me SCREAMING at them to interrupt Lunatic Voice, follow me when she jump (since they didn't know the pattern), but we got Siren on like 5th try.

I had to be very strict but they each got their first kills, and some of them were very poorly geared. Hard to carry a group as a healer ..

[allluckys]

If you can interrupt voice with blunt arrow or spirits final boss is cake.

[bob13bob]

just got this group today, on my WHM daily roulette. The tank was sitting at like 4990 HP, no one else has completed it.

It took a while, and we almost ran out of time, but we finished it. It required me SCREAMING at them to interrupt Lunatic Voice, follow me when she jump (since they didn't know the pattern), but we got Siren on like 5th try..

Just to let you know. 4983 tank = i62 average. Which is already 7 item levels over what previous dungeons drops. Reminder, this dungeon drops i60 gear. Still obvious dungeon needs tuning.

[AunaYuuki]

It isn't hard at all as long as people know the mechanics. People are too lazy to learn it. My team went in Darklight and parts of AF (regular not 2/+1) to test the actual level limits. It is difficult, but totally do-able. You just really can't mess up and yolo swag.