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    Player
    Quackley's Avatar
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    Dec 2013
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    Character
    Draggy Beet
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleftobismal View Post
    <facing target nonsense, hooray?>
    I'm not sure how people not knowing how to face targets is worth mentioning, but okay.
    Saying "we can't cast if you walk behind us or make us face away from you" is just saying "bad players can't cast on moving targets," which while true, doesn't really mean anything when it comes to summoners being over the top.

    You can literally keybind a face target button, or just macro it in to your buttons.
    Or just turn better, that always works too.
    There's no excuse for not landing a cast as a caster, especially with the incredibly generous latency this game has.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleftobismal View Post
    If your not gonna let the BLM dmg then clearly you don't need to let the Summoner do so either.
    One does heavy damage while making long chains of casts. The other does heavy damage without having to cast. Tossing up Bio2 and Miasma isn't anywhere near Fire3 + multiple fireballs.

    Not letting a BLM do damage is easy. You sit on it forever and ever. Not letting a SMN do damage isn't the same at all. Sprint and Miasma2 spam gets you away seeing as how melee in this game don't have reliable snares, plus you get a ridiculous amount of fun instants. BLM has scathe and the PvP abilities, and has far more setup required to do damage even after sprinting away.

    Enkindle's a long CD, but having basically a guaranteed kill with it doesn't suddenly make that okay.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleftobismal View Post
    Don't SMN's also chain cast mutliple spells to get their desired dmg though? z_z Where is this magic button that unleashes all their skills at once. Please Do Tell.
    It's not even close, sorry.
    To keep up the massive sustained damage, yes you need those dots.
    To drop one target quickly/immediately, no, you don't need them.

    I really hoped someone would point out the whole "instantly" thing, cause it's hilarious that people take it seriously.
    No, it's not instantly, but it comes very quickly, fast enough that there's basically no spells that can go off quick enough to counteract it. Benediction and swiftcasted stuff maybe, but the total damage SMN can pump out during their "burst" is high enough that it's not an issue.

    You can just bypass the limit by clicking edit for next time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    I dont know why u should even try hardcast flares when u can spam fire1 and wait fire3 procs that can crit like 2k?
    Fire3 doesn't quite crit 2k, but yes, this is what any decent BLM does.
    That's why when people mention anything about 2 flares, it makes it giggle.
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    Last edited by Quackley; 01-20-2014 at 07:40 PM.