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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants View Post
    These are your words not mine...
    This is somewhat acceptable...


    Totally uncalled for... Do you not understand your job? Thats a downgrading statement and totally uncalled... Then you attack the WAR stating that they don't know how to stun...





    If you cant see why you didn't deserve to get booted maybe you should get off your high pedistal and learn what respect is...

    Then we get to this point where you start inpeading other peoples game progress...
    Its called group responsibility. A dungeon requires teamwork and cooperation from everyone in the group in order to pass. When you decide to join a dungeon, in the Duty Finder, if you do not already come prepared with knowing what your responsibilities are, you need to be able to learn or communicate with your group to do so. This wasn't happening here.

    You seem to have a point of view that everyone pays a subscription, so they can be a unique snowflake and run the dungeon however they want, don't need to listen or cooperate with a group, its their entitlement to get carried through a dungeon. I'm guessing the game is more of a social focus for you, or you may be into RP, or crafting, or other type of activities that do not revolve around dungeons. When you are doing your crafting, you can choose exactly what you want make, who you want to deal with, 100% in your control. You can choose which FC to join, which Linkshell, which friends to have, what RP to do, anything and that's all fine. That's what the game is for, there are no rules really. However when you choose to join a dungeon with Duty Finder, its not my responsibility to do your job, it is not your entitlement to get a free run through a dungeon handed to you. You need to participate/learn/communicate, it is your responsibility to play to the best of your abilities. To be honest, I don't really mind carrying players when I do, for example the BLM in AK this week who couldn't seem to make it to fights, or would afk and get "locked out," we killed the boss 3 people without him, and no I never vote kicked him. Or to the BRD in WP who I am doing more DPS as a tank than with multiple lvl 30+ items. I don't kick these people, I just plow through and get a win, and drop party. However in Pharos Sirus, I can't carry a party that can't learn job roles because it is a harder dungeon. I think a lot of DPS are just used to being carried, and they get to a place like Pharos Sirus, and their mind is blown when they have a responsibility/ Every lvl 50 BRD gets an interrupt skill, I'm not asking you to be full ilvl90 gear, I'm asking you to cast your skill at the appropriate time and communicate with the groupand I know you have interrupted before since you did your class quest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squa View Post
    You seem to have a point of view that everyone pays a subscription, so they can be a unique snowflake and run the dungeon however they want, don't need to listen or cooperate with a group, its their entitlement to get carried through a dungeon. I'm guessing the game is more of a social focus for you, or you may be into RP, or crafting, or other type of activities that do not revolve around dungeons.
    Look, and bear with me a second, do you ever think about how you sound to someone who hasn't met you? In the same way you saw their skill lacking ... they saw your personality lacking. I mean unless your original post is paraphrased, you probably pissed them off. This isn't the intent of the votekick or anything like it, but given the number of "I was kicked by elitists" threads I've read, where people say "you must just not understand how bad you are" I feel the need to respond in kind.

    Do you understand you were being a jerk?

    EDIT: I mean it's partially using that kind of militant raid speak people get used to saying "Tank" or "Bard" instead of typing out names and partially I assume you're softening your tone (like we all assume in every "I got kicked" thread the person was much worse than they are) for the purposes of this post. It certainly is abuse and it certainly was wrong, but I think like a lot of people in the "I got kicked ;_;" threads you might need to reflect a little on how you interact with John Q. Dutyfinder.
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    Last edited by Worm; 01-19-2014 at 01:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worm View Post
    Look, and bear with me a second, do you ever think about how you sound to someone who hasn't met you? In the same way you saw their skill lacking ... they saw your personality lacking. I mean unless your original post is paraphrased, you probably pissed them off. This isn't the intent of the votekick or anything like it, but given the number of "I was kicked by elitists" threads I've read, where people say "you must just not understand how bad you are" I feel the need to respond in kind.



    Do you understand you were being a jerk?

    EDIT: I mean it's partially using that kind of militant raid speak people get used to saying "Tank" or "Bard" instead of typing out names and partially I assume you're softening your tone (like we all assume in every "I got kicked" thread the person was much worse than they are) for the purposes of this post. It certainly is abuse and it certainly was wrong, but I think like a lot of people in the "I got kicked ;_;" threads you might need to reflect a little on how you interact with John Q. Dutyfinder.
    I was not being a jerk. I explained the fight very politely to everyone before we did each boss, the people in the party were new and did not know strategies. I explained everyone roles before the final boss. We died when people were not doing their roles, I then asked if they understand what was going on, and had questions about their responsibilities. Then I get the blank stares, no responses and "go, go, go, go." Apparently its my job to just carry them through a dungeon without them even lifting a finger or effort to make things easier or learn a new mechanic. Apparently I should be vote kicked for making them try. I am also guessing you have never been in Pharos Sirus, yet alone healed it.

    Maybe we should have sat there and died for another 40 minutes because I was being rude and making players actually follow a strategy or use teamwork. Maybe I shouldn't have "hurt their feelings" by making telling them "strategy" and making them use "teamwork." You are so busy defending them you forgot to realize that they abused the Vote Kick feature and kicked me from the group. Even though they were noobs and I vastly outgeared any of them, I never even considered kicking anyone for being new or not geared.

    I encourage you to make your own "unique snowflake" dungeon parties, you could maybe go on your crafter class, and not use any strategy and make sure not to communicate with anyone in your group you may hurt their feelings or offend them
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    Last edited by Squa; 01-19-2014 at 01:25 PM.