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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    I personally feel prices should be

    small: 500k. Something anyone could afford. Small fcs could have their own house.
    medium: 3 million. Something few could afford without people pitching in. Would require a decent size fc
    large: 10 million. Something 1% could afford. Requires a very large fc with many rich members willing to contribute

    These would be non legacy prices.
    You're joking right?

    500k is literally nothing. That should be the price for individual housing, not FC housing (and honestly, I'm of the opinion that small houses should be for individual players not FCs, since they're so tiny).
    3 mil requiring several people to pitch in and a decent sized FC? Before housing prices were announced I had 1.2 mil just by progressing (albeit slowly) through the story. Ever since then I've actually been concentrating on making money for a house and I have over 4.5 mil now (and I'm not even 50).
    10 mil isn't something that only 1% could afford, it's something that every FC could afford if their members actually saved up gil and contributed to the housing effort, but alas, no one really wants to make an effort.

    Though I do admit that making money on the new servers might be easier than on the Legacy servers.

    NOTE: I'm not saying that houses shouldn't be cheap like that. In fact, I believe that prices should be like that with the key difference that the small houses should be reserved for individual players since they're so tiny. I just chuckle at the argument that saving up 3 and 10 mil would be difficult for FCs. It certainly isn't on Phoenix.

    More so when the game actually has a big potential gil fountain with treasure hunt alone (which is the same as on Legacy servers):
    - 1 Peiste chest is, roughly, 1600 gil per person which is a guaranteed 12800 gil with a party of 8 players.
    - 8 maps per day would be roughly 100k per day for the FC.
    - And some chests actually drop 5k per player which would be 40k for a single map.

    You see now why I consider getting 500k nothing? It would be 5 days "work" for 8 people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    You're joking right?

    500k is literally nothing. That should be the price for individual housing
    That's the point. That's why I said "anyone can afford"

    Content should never be limited. Anyone should be capable of buying a house for their FC. May be a dinky tiny house but a house nonetheless. Housing shouldn't be some look at me I'm so elite thing. It's a thing that all players should be able to enjoy.

    Also, a couple million may not seem like much for a FC but it is. Very few are going to be willing to cough up even 100k to fund the house. Because people are greedy and the house won't personally benefit them. The majority of the player base has around 200k gil. (non legacy) Saying you've had over a million before means nothing. You're the exception not the rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    That's the point. That's why I said "anyone can afford"
    You apparently skipped my point.

    Group of 8 people doing TH using Peiste maps.

    Using your prices at max it would take this group:

    5 days to afford a Small house.
    30 days to afford a Medium house.
    100 days to afford a Large house.

    And that's just by doing Treasure Hunt.

    I agree that getting a house should be accessible to everyone (and I did mention that I agree with your suggested prices), but I'm not going to pretend that raising 10 mil would take much effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    You apparently skipped my point.

    Group of 8 people doing TH using Peiste maps.

    Using your prices at max it would take this group:

    5 days to afford a Small house.
    30 days to afford a Medium house.
    100 days to afford a Large house.

    And that's just by doing Treasure Hunt.

    I agree that getting a house should be accessible to everyone (and I did mention that I agree with your suggested prices), but I'm not going to pretend that raising 10 mil would take much effort.

    The majority of people aren't going to do this.

    You also assume that people would be willing to give up all the gil they make towards the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    The majority of people aren't going to do this.

    You also assume that people would be willing to give up all the gil they make towards the house.
    But um, I mean the methods to actually generate gil is there, isn't it? It's just up to people whether it's worth their time or not to farm and then buy a house...right? Just because they don't want to doesn't mean it's not affordable..? (Although I do agree legacy prices are mad.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Before housing prices were announced I had 1.2 mil just by progressing (albeit slowly) through the story.
    No you didn't.

    If you JUST followed the story and used side-quests and FATEs/dungeons to fill in the missing XP you'd have nothing like that.

    You did other things.
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