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    Vulpix's Avatar
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    Ghye Otte
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50

    Is Quake from Archeron bypassing Succor's shields for anyone?

    Is it just me or is it bypassing the shields?
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    Shinoa Hiragi
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quake bypasses everything.
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Yeah, a lot of the AoEs in CT bypass buffs (I assume all, but since I've mostly healed all I know for sure are Galvanize and Stoneskin. But the poison from the left path also bypasses every defensive buff, just doing a flat 200 damage every tick, so I assume everything that bypasses SS and Galv also bypasses self-buffs as well)

    This does make AoE healing with Succor a real pain if you have 2 SCH...
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    Illyria Morgoth
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    o.o whats the point in succor being used then if its shield doesn't do whats it meant to
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    Lemon Nate
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    So it wasn't just me imagining things then. o.o" Unless your party is terrible at dodging his AOE, there's no point for the Succor shield to be up. I'm better off spamming Physick and Embrace on 8 people separately.

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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Samurai Lv 70
    His Ice spell does too. Ignores shields and stoneskin.
    Since they're pretty close in his rotation, succor still seems like a decent spell to buffer everyone for the next hit.
    Of course, Whispering Dawn will always be a better option since mitigation is out the window anyway.
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    M'kael Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    So it wasn't just me imagining things then. o.o" Unless your party is terrible at dodging his AOE, there's no point for the Succor shield to be up. I'm better off spamming Physick and Embrace on 8 people separately.
    I like having succor up in case of emergency anyways. At the very least, it's less effort than manually healing everyone back up. >>
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    Firetta Thierremont
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    Lamia
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    This seems like a poor design decision. Scholars don't get the massive AOE heals that White Mages do, so making AOEs go through our AOE mitigation feels like it makes SCH just flat out less effective than WHM on this content.
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    Lil Muffins
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    Conjurer Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Firetta View Post
    This seems like a poor design decision. Scholars don't get the massive AOE heals that White Mages do, so making AOEs go through our AOE mitigation feels like it makes SCH just flat out less effective than WHM on this content.
    Well this is where the ideal setup if a SCH + WHM comes in. Have the SCH go heals on the Tank and the WHM can heal up the raid, as it utilizes their design better.

    Plus even if it doesn't mitigate that attack, it at least mitigates the following attack.
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    Y'ahte Tia
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    Zalera
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    Are you all 100% sure it isn't just the sheer amount of stuff going on in the field causing the 'barrior buff falls but the icon fails to vanish' error?

    I know from experience that Quake III will do upwards of 2500 to a Dragoon set up in full Myth gear.
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