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  1. #11
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    Crizz Sativa
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    yeah i know...but still...its just funny nobody said anything about it and stated you need more accuracy for coil

    but yet...hes talking about having less from coil gear....now that doesnt make any sence if its tru...you would think

    that with every1 saying you need more...you would get more from the place you get it from to make that end game eaiser

    unless there are other stats that nul the reason to have so much acc like making him like sonic and hes just hitting that much

    faster that missing a few times gets made up for how many punches the guy gets to throw...but like i said....i didnt

    look at the stats so IDK
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  2. #12
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    Umo Heima
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Crizz13 View Post
    you would think

    that with every1 saying you need more...you would get more from the place you get it from to make that end game eaiser
    You're forgetting that currently we actually get more armor pieces than Allagan from the Binding Coil of Bahamut, although they are not dropped. We get Allagan Tomestones of Mithology used to purchase ilevel 90 equipment, which would help you out to get that Acc needed for last turn.
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umo View Post
    You're forgetting that currently we actually get more armor pieces than Allagan from the Binding Coil of Bahamut, although they are not dropped. We get Allagan Tomestones of Mithology used to purchase ilevel 90 equipment, which would help you out to get that Acc needed for last turn.
    Which is kinda annoying that you have to go mix and match armor sets for turn 5. Which seems counter-productive in regards to the aesthetic designs for the armor sets. Especially with more options to gear up in ilvl 90. EM primal accessories and weapons. We are given these options that we cannot use because of the mandatory accuracy needed. eg BRDs Zenith and the EM bow. The EM bow has better stats for DPS but the Zenith has the needed acc. Yes you can increase acc other ways, the CT legs for example have acc and the myth pants dont. So you losing on another there.

    My solution would be to make accuracy not count towards the point allocation for gear. Or allow 1 materia to be added to ilvl 90 gear. Even if that Materia is a special kind thats only available from coil or from myth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    In all my time playing MMOs I have never run into someone who didn't want to improve their gear... even if it was just a tiny increase. Currently the unknown that is accuracy is restricting the min/max game that so many of us actually like doing. Please for the love of whatever primal you worship tell us how this works.
    Min/maxers are the bane of most MMOs, anything that prevents it is a Good Thing IMO. You don't need detailed battle mechanic mathematics to know how to improve, as SE have clearly said in recent replies on this subject.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by KraggyKor View Post
    Min/maxers are the bane of most MMOs, anything that prevents it is a Good Thing IMO. You don't need detailed battle mechanic mathematics to know how to improve, as SE have clearly said in recent replies on this subject.
    You totally missed the point of the OP.

    The question is: Why does coil drops the best gear in the game, but doesn't have the stats (ie accuracy) needed to use said gear in the games hardest content?

    The should redo the ACC gear stat, and include it on all pieces but not have it count that items stat allotment. That way, DL would have enough ACC to start coil, then after a few drops you would have enough ACC to T5, then once you got full allagan/myth you would have enough ACC for T6 when it comes out...
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azoryl View Post
    You totally missed the point of the OP.

    The question is: Why does coil drops the best gear in the game, but doesn't have the stats (ie accuracy) needed to use said gear in the games hardest content?
    When has it been said that coil gear is supposed to be the best for all situations?
    Pretty sure you CAN complete coil in full AF+1 or full Allagan. Mixing gear for optimal stats just makes it easier/allows for more errors.
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Players already have accuracy figured out. I'd rather have tooltip numbers for crit rate and parry rate.
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  8. #18
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    Dedayius Lascarion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axidrain View Post
    i guess they should just remove all the numbered stats in the equipment description, and replace it with stronger/weaker lol
    Haha. The sad part is, that's basically what we have now. You can see if a number is higher or lower than what you currently have, but have little idea what difference it will really make.
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    Lord Saviour
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azoryl View Post
    You totally missed the point of the OP.

    The question is: Why does coil drops the best gear in the game, but doesn't have the stats (ie accuracy) needed to use said gear in the games hardest content?

    The should redo the ACC gear stat, and include it on all pieces but not have it count that items stat allotment. That way, DL would have enough ACC to start coil, then after a few drops you would have enough ACC to T5, then once you got full allagan/myth you would have enough ACC for T6 when it comes out...
    Coil drops some of the best gear in the game, with the combination of Mythos, Ex Jewelry and Ultima HM. You have to pick and choose what items fits your play style while also hitting 475 Acc to do T4-5.

    Some people stress Main Stat > Det > Crit others Main Stat > Crit > Det. It makes each possible gear set less cookie cutter and in the long run makes people look less cookie cutter.

    If you look at CT gear which is supposed to be the pre cursor to Coil, a lot of those pieces imo are fillers to get you prepared for Coil. Not to complete a whole set and wear over DL for the reason it is higher iLv.

    This game would be insanely bland in terms of gear sets if Coil dropped each BiS gear.
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  10. #20
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    Willow Rathel
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    THERE IS ONLY ONE STOP THAT MATTERS AND THAT IS ACCURACY AND IT IS GLORIOUSSSSSSSSS

    /end sarcasm

    Play how you want to play, if min maxing is you thing then get a parser do it and change what needs to be changed in order to accomplish your goal.

    Me on the other hand. Don't give no f as far as accuracy iI'll use acc that have them but when I get full coil gear on my tank that's what I am wearing regardless of stats because, one I earned it, two it supposed to be the best in the game, and three anyone who makes a set of armor the hardest to achieve but not the best fails at design.
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