One to Fifty, One Zone - Long OP

[weeble]

i don't think i can post them but u guys can check out u'rselves but MystinaValeth on youtube has shown all the blocked off areas, theres probably only 2-3 that are exciting looking, but im sure the others once full of mobs will be just as exciting.

but at the end of the fesse video u can see a good 30seconds of him floating threw a zone of snowlands that looks like beaucidean and such like ffxi. it's very exciting to see. (thought was snow but it's just rock as someone has set straight)

but still the game needs work, but i would like to show that there is a little new ness to some places. just don't think it will be enough. but yeah check it out. it gave me hope and excitement for the future of game a little.

[kurokawa]

There is a certain lack of "planting one's flag" in FFXIV. In FFXI, setting your Home Point helped fill the psychological place-marker of:

• "This is the furthest I have ever gone from home."

Remember the first time you landed on Kazham?? I remember. It was 2004. I felt like Christopher Columbus on the Island of Cat Girls!

I set my Home Point. Doing so marked that I had progressed to a point where there was no easy way back home. Now I was committed. I would learn the ways of the jungle AND die trying ... repeatedly. I would progress a little bit further each week. At first, I clung to the walls of the village like a child to his father's leg ... so I only saw stockades and cleared jungle. Then I progressed and saw lava tunnels and jungle so dense the vines were big enough for chocobos to run across. As I progressed, I was psychologically planting my flag further and further. I was psychologically progressing.

And that's what FFXIV is missing. Psychological Progression. Sure, your character progresses empirically. She was R38 yesterday and now R40 today. She can do something now that she couldn't do before. But does it feel like she's moved further along in the game??

And this is what this thread touches upon. The lack of variety in zones, the monster distribution, the Anima System, the Guildleve System, etc ... may not be directly responsible for the lack of psychological progression, but they each contribute.

• Why does the least dangerous part of a region look identical to the most dangerous part?
• Why do the most dangerous monsters in the game live in the same region as a beginning city?
• Why can I be teleported to an Aetheryte I've never visited?
• Why are the highest ranked quests in the game in beginning cities?

If the empirical progression doesn't place at least some demand for adjusting a players interaction with their world (even as little as seeing a different part of it), that players psychological progression throughout the game will be anemic at best. They will get bored quickly, because they are not required to see or do or fight anything differently from one week to the next ... or from one month to the next.

Psychological progression, Development Team! Make us FEEL like we are progressing in the game!

Making me wish it was possible to 'love' a post rather than just like it with a thumbs up.

Well said sir.

[EdenArchangel]

i don't think i can post them but u guys can check out u'rselves but MystinaValeth on youtube has shown all the blocked off areas, theres probably only 2-3 that are exciting looking, but im sure the others once full of mobs will be just as exciting.

but at the end of the fesse video u can see a good 30seconds of him floating threw a zone of snowlands that looks like beaucidean and such like ffxi. it's very exciting to see. but still the game needs work, but i would like to show that there is a little new ness to some places. just don't think it will be enough. but yeah check it out. it gave me hope and excitement for the future of game a little.

I'm sorry to report that isn't snow, just gray rock. Glitched there myself.

[weeble]

lol u'r right it not snow, had to look at it again. looks like snow to me without enlarging to full screen. still one of my favorite looking areas that i've seen. has a little flavor to it.

[Rowyne]

There is a certain lack of "planting one's flag" in FFXIV. In FFXI, setting your Home Point helped fill the psychological place-marker of:

• "This is the furthest I have ever gone from home."

Remember the first time you landed on Kazham?? I remember. It was 2004. I felt like Christopher Columbus on the Island of Cat Girls!

I set my Home Point. Doing so marked that I had progressed to a point where there was no easy way back home. Now I was committed. I would learn the ways of the jungle AND die trying ... repeatedly. I would progress a little bit further each week. At first, I clung to the walls of the village like a child to his father's leg ... so I only saw stockades and cleared jungle. Then I progressed and saw lava tunnels and jungle so dense the vines were big enough for chocobos to run across. As I progressed, I was psychologically planting my flag further and further. I was psychologically progressing.

And that's what FFXIV is missing. Psychological Progression. Sure, your character progresses empirically. She was R38 yesterday and now R40 today. She can do something now that she couldn't do before. But does it feel like she's moved further along in the game??

And this is what this thread touches upon. The lack of variety in zones, the monster distribution, the Anima System, the Guildleve System, etc ... may not be directly responsible for the lack of psychological progression, but they each contribute.

• Why does the least dangerous part of a region look identical to the most dangerous part?
• Why do the most dangerous monsters in the game live in the same region as a beginning city?
• Why can I be teleported to an Aetheryte I've never visited?
• Why are the highest ranked quests in the game in beginning cities?

If the empirical progression doesn't place at least some demand for adjusting a players interaction with their world (even as little as seeing a different part of it), that players psychological progression throughout the game will be anemic at best. They will get bored quickly, because they are not required to see or do or fight anything differently from one week to the next ... or from one month to the next.

Psychological progression, Development Team! Make us FEEL like we are progressing in the game!

AMAZING post! It is definitely a psychological issue. Two big thumbs up!!!

[Zahak]

after watching this video ;at the end that is...where shes floating through the sky. That is a nice looking room. If only SE could make neat areas like that all around the game I would love to explore/hang out around there.

[kurokawa]

Hands up who thinks we should all keep posting all night so the thread gets to over 1000 posts?

It's either that or Behest at camp Horizon again.

I'm staying here.

[kurokawa]

Ok I lied, I left the thread. I went to check the AH on ffxi.

Anyone want to buy some gear on the cheap? I have so much of it from the endless happy wandering I've been doing in Vanadiel.

Be great to wander, collect stuff and sell it quick on the AH in 14 but.....oh....wait....

[Siobu]

Well, Kuro, so long as this thread keeps the interest and attention of the community, I'll be here with the rest of you.

[kurokawa]

Cool siobu.

Question for you.

Do you actually think they'll change it and make necessary adjustments to the zones or do you think they just start dropping buildings, camps and dungeons in everywhere?

I'm still secretly hoping they will surprise us and detonate the black shroud sometime in summer!