I want 2.2 to be a "reset" for players in full i90 gear. Make Turn 6 a distant goal.

[NeoAmon]

So, enjoy not running content then? Sometimes running stuff like Mog is just fun. I don't need to have sweet awesome drops to make something fun. I enjoy new running things with my FC and figuring out and making our own strats.

I'm sure all your jobs are also max i90 and you don't need anything at all for any of your jobs.

Do you even have fun? Do you know what fun is? You seem the type to be very angry all time (especially when there is one small mistake). Hey, if they don't add ilvl 120 gear, you can always quit right?

Wow all the assumptions. Can I assume whatever I want about you to? I'm having fun ty, no I have no fun in any content that is not challenging or rewarding. No I don't get mad at a game, no I'm not going to quit and yes I think you are a very terrible player, why? assumptions, remember what you just did?

You have your fun, I have my own. What is wrong with that? Or the game is just made for what you like alone?

[Aenarion]

You have your fun, I have my own. What is wrong with that? Or the game is just made for what you like alone?

That is what you're advocating here, intentionally or not.

Not everyone wants the game turned into a mindless power-creeping item-squshing gear grind fest, which you seem to want so very badly.

[NeoAmon]

That is what you're advocating here, intentionally or not.

Not everyone wants the game turned into a mindless power-creeping item-squshing gear grind fest, which you seem to want so very badly.

Was not 2.1 made for that? What is wrong for me to ask for what I want now in 2.2 which was promised to be a "progress" not ilvl same old no progress that I have 0 interest in.

[Aenarion]

Was not 2.1 made for that? What is wrong for me to ask for what I want now in 2.2 which was promised to be a "progress" not ilvl80 that I have 0 interest in.

2.1 is a catch up, it's shit that's supposed to be in for launch. Also, you're missing the point - it's not that there shouldn't be progress, but rather the amount of "progress" you're asking for.

Going by people like you we'd be at ilvl 9000 by the end of next year.

[NeoAmon]

2.1 is a catch up, it's shit that's supposed to be in for launch. Also, you're missing the point - it's not that there shouldn't be progress, but rather the amount of "progress" you're asking for.

Going by people like you we'd be at ilvl 9000 by the end of next year.

You are the one missing the point, after 2.2 is another CT update which is what you guys want, do you want that be only 5 levels lower than Coil 2? It have to be at least 10 lvls lower or no point. Farm CT > ez mode Coil > profit.

The previous progress was good, Ilvl70 into ilvl90. When CT came out ilvl80 did not turn Coil gear to worthless. This is the same thing here, 2.2 gear have to be better than 2.3 by a good amount.

Plus know your math, if every 6 month we get an ilvl jump like we had since the game launched it will be ilvl120-140 max. the game would be 2 years old if not more before we reach ilvl200.

[Aenarion]

You are the one missing the point, after 2.2 is another CT update which is what you guys want, do you want that be only 5 levels lower than Coil 2? It have to be at least 10 lvls lower or no point. Farm CT > ez mode Coil > profit.

Don't try to put words in my mouth, you don't know jack shit about what I want.

Plus know your math, if every 6 month we get an ilvl jump like we had since the game launched it will be ilvl120-140 max. the game would be 2 years old if not more before we reach ilvl200.

It's a hyperbole, go check the dictionary since you apparently don't know what that is.

What you're describing is exactly the kind of unimaginative endless gear treadmill that does nothing but trivializes every content that comes before it that too many MMOs these days have become.

[NeoAmon]

Don't try to put words in my mouth, you don't know jack shit about what I want.

What you want is an easy ride that require minimum efforts. You and others are making assumptions without thinking it through. It only takes few seconds of thinking to understand what you are asking for.

You want Coil to stay ilvl90? great. WHAT THE IS THE POINT? We are not getting special gear stats, we are not getting progress, what should we get then? same old stuff with different colours?

If you want ilvl90 to be the max forever, then every single ilvl in the game including Coil 1 need to get nerfed to the ground so Coil 2 gear have "progress". This is why I'm playing this game and this is why I'm enjoying it, I love raiding and I love the loot. You take the loot away and you take my fun away.

I never asked for your fun to be taken away so stay away from what I enjoy. Why do you think FCs are still doing Coil every week since the game launched? It is because someone in the group is still missing dat ilvl90 BiS even when he/she have the Myth one.

[Wolf_Gang]

When CT came out ilvl80 did not turn Coil gear to worthless. This is the same thing here, 2.2 gear have to be better than 2.3 by a good amount.

Agreed. Not only do they need to reserve ilvs for the next CT
but they'll need space to fit in the new crafted gear as well as gear drops from the new dungeons.

[Zarzak]

The previous progress was good, Ilvl70 into ilvl90. When CT came out ilvl80 did not turn Coil gear to worthless. This is the same thing here, 2.2 gear have to be better than 2.3 by a good amount.

Plus know your math, if every 6 month we get an ilvl jump like we had since the game launched it will be ilvl120-140 max. the game would be 2 years old if not more before we reach ilvl200.

Since you were apparently misinformed. ilvl 80 was supposed to come out at launch and ilvl 90 at 2.1. They decided CT was too hard and threw out coil 1st.

And by your logic Coil 6-10 would be ilvl 110. Not the ilvl 120 your asking for. CT would come in 2.3 with ilvl 100. Unless your suggesting they drop group content gear at ilvl 100 and go ahead and make all the raid content from 2.0 and 2.1 pointless. Which from reading what you have said so far you probably are.

Agreed. Not only do they need to reserve ilvs for the next CT
but they'll need space to fit in the new crafted gear as well as gear drops from the new dungeons.

So your plan is to release group content and crafted gear that makes everything currently in the game pointless and obsolete? WOW

[Wolf_Gang]

So your plan is to release group content and crafted gear that makes everything currently in the game pointless and obsolete? WOW

Why would it be obsolete? You would need the current gear to obtain the new gear.